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02.07.2017 - 06:15
Simple solution.DS isnt op expect as ukr against turk.So instead of nerfing it just reduce anti aircraft(AA) cost to like 150.That would be 120 with imp.Currenlty its at 180 making it too expensive for turkey to afford plus that making 1 wont do much damage.You need 2 or more.I had asked ivan for this and he gave them op range.Ivan,we not rank 5s to have issues with range.We have issues with their efficiency.Reducing their cost -30 or even -50 will make game way more balanced.
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02.07.2017 - 07:08
Or maybe just remove ds ;d
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03.07.2017 - 10:01
This needs more attentiiiioooon.
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03.07.2017 - 11:45
No this doesnt need any attention. I remember explaining to you that the ds change was not just about turkey and why this suggestion wasnt feasible. I also specifically remember telling you about a strat called sky menace which would also be affected by such a change. Why even mail me to look at this

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03.07.2017 - 14:03
Written by Permamuted, 03.07.2017 at 11:45

No this doesnt need any attention. I remember explaining to you that the ds change was not just about turkey and why this suggestion wasnt feasible. I also specifically remember telling you about a strat called sky menace which would also be affected by such a change. Why even mail me to look at this

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Have you ever played duel against a decent ds ukr?
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03.07.2017 - 14:04
Written by Chess, 03.07.2017 at 12:09

-30 Cost is way too much. GW and Imp would crush any Heli/Bomber spamming player. You may not find this scenario in Eu+ 3v3 since Turkey won't be able to get enough high income countries, but end-mid game world map f.e
DS Ukraine is only OP if you as Ukraine get funded very well, while Turkey doesn't. DS biggest weakness lies in not being able to ultilize every reinforcement due to cash problems. Obviously that problem is gone with proper funding.

Long term potential for DS? It's kind of shit, because it can't hold countries properly.
Not an OP strategy.

Ds ukr is op in duels too.
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03.07.2017 - 14:13
Then just add another +2 def against helis.AA is useless right now.
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03.07.2017 - 14:37
Written by Nations, 03.07.2017 at 14:03

Written by Permamuted, 03.07.2017 at 11:45

No this doesnt need any attention. I remember explaining to you that the ds change was not just about turkey and why this suggestion wasnt feasible. I also specifically remember telling you about a strat called sky menace which would also be affected by such a change. Why even mail me to look at this

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Have you ever played duel against a decent ds ukr?


No.
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04.07.2017 - 06:42
Ds is too rushable mid-game tbh.
As with almost every other strat, a 1:1 trade favours (in europe+ 3v3) pd or imp over ds since their defenses are more cost efficient. Thus, rushing allows you to force the ds fag to make 1:2 or even worse trades (since you'll both have stack bonus in their cap and general bonus due to higher number of units)
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04.07.2017 - 08:54
Written by LukeTan, 04.07.2017 at 06:42

Ds is too rushable mid-game tbh.
As with almost every other strat, a 1:1 trade favours (in europe+ 3v3) pd or imp over ds since their defenses are more cost efficient. Thus, rushing allows you to force the ds fag to make 1:2 or even worse trades (since you'll both have stack bonus in their cap and general bonus due to higher number of units)

Luke a clever ds ukr will rush a balkan country to make some chaos.He isnt retarted to late u get balkans spam to rush him.
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04.07.2017 - 09:10
Written by Nations, 04.07.2017 at 08:54

Written by LukeTan, 04.07.2017 at 06:42

Ds is too rushable mid-game tbh.
As with almost every other strat, a 1:1 trade favours (in europe+ 3v3) pd or imp over ds since their defenses are more cost efficient. Thus, rushing allows you to force the ds fag to make 1:2 or even worse trades (since you'll both have stack bonus in their cap and general bonus due to higher number of units)

Luke a clever ds ukr will rush a balkan country to make some chaos.He isnt retarted to late u get balkans spam to rush him.

It's funny that i was about to say that the counter to ds rush is to get spawn...
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05.07.2017 - 16:59
You don't know how to play if you really need to make a thread like this.
AA is fine
DS is fine.
Just learn to play better
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06.07.2017 - 04:24
Written by PleaseMe, 05.07.2017 at 16:59

You don't know how to play if you really need to make a thread like this.
AA is fine
DS is fine.
Just learn to play better

Go back in innactivity pls no one wants your useless opinion.Ds is not fine when enemy has 8att helis and only thing u have to defend against them is 4def inf(-2 nerf) and 180 cost AA.
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06.07.2017 - 11:34
Written by Nations, 06.07.2017 at 04:24

Go back in innactivity pls no one wants your useless opinion.Ds is not fine when enemy has 8att helis and only thing u have to defend against them is 4def inf(-2 nerf) and 180 cost AA.


Written by Nations, 04.07.2017 at 10:57

Nice respecting others opinion imao.
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06.07.2017 - 19:10
Written by Nations, 06.07.2017 at 04:24



I am not the one who has trouble with DS, and it looks like neither does Lao or Chess or any of the players who know how to play against DS.
Just learn how to play and you will get better narb.
DS fine
AA fine
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07.07.2017 - 00:30
Written by PleaseMe, 06.07.2017 at 19:10

Written by Nations, 06.07.2017 at 04:24



I am not the one who has trouble with DS, and it looks like neither does Lao or Chess or any of the players who know how to play against DS.
Just learn how to play and you will get better narb.
DS fine
AA fine

Go play then 10 duels against 4nic ds ukr and prove your sayings.
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