Biggwall problems.

Written by Permamuted, 14.10.2014 at 13:15

why are you taking it as disrespect... you clearly dont understand where im coming from, or just disagree, i'm not particularly offended by this...A move thats used all over aw for years, and its only now that waffel has begun issuing orders to first turn wf users...

Written by Goblin, 14.10.2014 at 13:43

Written by Permamuted, 14.10.2014 at 13:15

why are you taking it as disrespect... you clearly dont understand where im coming from, or just disagree, i'm not particularly offended by this...A move thats used all over aw for years, and its only now that waffel has begun issuing orders to first turn wf users...

answering yet again only part of my post that has no real meaning

you just cant give up big wall rewalling can you? ...and all that talk about you adapting to situations and similar things, all talk no show.

I gave up and offered rewalling and serbian rewalling as legit ...but you want it all without compromise.

Expect me to do not just what syrian did, but i will invade your teritory.

Good talk.

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 13:17

Written by SyrianDevil, 14.10.2014 at 12:44

Written by Khal.eesi, 14.10.2014 at 11:50

If this is the "serious" conversation that followed the troll/gif removed comments...then sorry but i would take my gifs anyday carry on please this is very interesting

please stop crying to support your clan mate
Thanks

you did this to me in ladder challenge so stfu

With your logic, i can wf every single capital in europe, but kiev and madrid.

Written by Permamuted, 14.10.2014 at 13:50

so now youre threatening me because i disagree with you?

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 13:17

Written by SyrianDevil, 14.10.2014 at 12:44

Written by Khal.eesi, 14.10.2014 at 11:50

If this is the "serious" conversation that followed the troll/gif removed comments...then sorry but i would take my gifs anyday carry on please this is very interesting

please stop crying to support your clan mate
Thanks

you did this to me in ladder challenge so stfu

With your logic, i can wf every single capital in europe, but kiev and madrid.

Written by Goblin, 14.10.2014 at 13:52

Written by Permamuted, 14.10.2014 at 13:50

so now youre threatening me because i disagree with you?

if you illyrians are goin to take it upon yourself to direct the rules of this game anyway you like it without us others having a word in it?

That wasnt a treat ...that was a promise.

Written by SyrianDevil, 14.10.2014 at 13:52

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 13:17

Written by SyrianDevil, 14.10.2014 at 12:44

Written by Khal.eesi, 14.10.2014 at 11:50

If this is the "serious" conversation that followed the troll/gif removed comments...then sorry but i would take my gifs anyday carry on please this is very interesting

please stop crying to support your clan mate
Thanks

you did this to me in ladder challenge so stfu

With your logic, i can wf every single capital in europe, but kiev and madrid.

he did the wall that prevent me from attack ankara till turn 4
wtf is this
i wasted a 1unit to wf this wall in propose because im not giving him advantge over this

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 14:01

Written by SyrianDevil, 14.10.2014 at 13:52

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 13:17

Written by SyrianDevil, 14.10.2014 at 12:44

Written by Khal.eesi, 14.10.2014 at 11:50

If this is the "serious" conversation that followed the troll/gif removed comments...then sorry but i would take my gifs anyday carry on please this is very interesting

please stop crying to support your clan mate
Thanks

you did this to me in ladder challenge so stfu

With your logic, i can wf every single capital in europe, but kiev and madrid.

he did the wall that prevent me from attack ankara till turn 4
wtf is this
i wasted a 1unit to wf this wall in propose because im not giving him advantge over this

So i may aswell wf your cap to prevent ukraine from expanding turn 2?
My blitzkrig turkey depends on 2 layers of walls, i been doing that since 2013.

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 14:01

Written by SyrianDevil, 14.10.2014 at 13:52

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 13:17

Written by SyrianDevil, 14.10.2014 at 12:44

Written by Khal.eesi, 14.10.2014 at 11:50

If this is the "serious" conversation that followed the troll/gif removed comments...then sorry but i would take my gifs anyday carry on please this is very interesting

please stop crying to support your clan mate
Thanks

you did this to me in ladder challenge so stfu

With your logic, i can wf every single capital in europe, but kiev and madrid.

he did the wall that prevent me from attack ankara till turn 4
wtf is this
i wasted a 1unit to wf this wall in propose because im not giving him advantge over this

So i may aswell wf your cap to prevent ukraine from expanding turn 2?
My blitzkrig turkey depends on 2 layers of walls, i been doing that since 2013.

Written by SyrianDevil, 14.10.2014 at 14:08

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 14:01

Written by SyrianDevil, 14.10.2014 at 13:52

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 13:17

Written by SyrianDevil, 14.10.2014 at 12:44

Written by Khal.eesi, 14.10.2014 at 11:50

If this is the "serious" conversation that followed the troll/gif removed comments...then sorry but i would take my gifs anyday carry on please this is very interesting

please stop crying to support your clan mate
Thanks

you did this to me in ladder challenge so stfu

With your logic, i can wf every single capital in europe, but kiev and madrid.

he did the wall that prevent me from attack ankara till turn 4
wtf is this
i wasted a 1unit to wf this wall in propose because im not giving him advantge over this

So i may aswell wf your cap to prevent ukraine from expanding turn 2?
My blitzkrig turkey depends on 2 layers of walls, i been doing that since 2013.

sorry but i dont do faggy 2turn wall arround ankara like someone
and this crys about i cannot defense ankara turn 3 well i can send 110 to kiev turn 3 as turky so how cant i defense ankara?
nice logic

Written by Permamuted, 14.10.2014 at 14:04

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 14:01

Written by SyrianDevil, 14.10.2014 at 13:52

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 13:17

Written by SyrianDevil, 14.10.2014 at 12:44

Written by Khal.eesi, 14.10.2014 at 11:50

If this is the "serious" conversation that followed the troll/gif removed comments...then sorry but i would take my gifs anyday carry on please this is very interesting

please stop crying to support your clan mate
Thanks

you did this to me in ladder challenge so stfu

With your logic, i can wf every single capital in europe, but kiev and madrid.

he did the wall that prevent me from attack ankara till turn 4
wtf is this
i wasted a 1unit to wf this wall in propose because im not giving him advantge over this

So i may aswell wf your cap to prevent ukraine from expanding turn 2?
My blitzkrig turkey depends on 2 layers of walls, i been doing that since 2013.

this is why we have this and the other thread, waffel, goblin bonker w4r and mou think this is ok. My main imp turk depends on a double wall. If syrian had rushed me in that cw turn 3 i wouldve been dead. nothing i could do to stop it.

Written by Permamuted, 14.10.2014 at 14:00

us illyrians... im done with this circular argument for now, until one of the mods try and do something about making a set of rules official. Until then it is not worth discussing since its accomplishing nothing.

but remind me not to play against youin the near future... how maddening after all the games ive played against you without a single rewall or double wall that you would make "promises" like this over a stupid disagreement.

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 14:11

Written by SyrianDevil, 14.10.2014 at 14:08

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 14:01

Written by SyrianDevil, 14.10.2014 at 13:52

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 13:17

Written by SyrianDevil, 14.10.2014 at 12:44

Written by Khal.eesi, 14.10.2014 at 11:50

If this is the "serious" conversation that followed the troll/gif removed comments...then sorry but i would take my gifs anyday carry on please this is very interesting

please stop crying to support your clan mate
Thanks

you did this to me in ladder challenge so stfu

With your logic, i can wf every single capital in europe, but kiev and madrid.

he did the wall that prevent me from attack ankara till turn 4
wtf is this
i wasted a 1unit to wf this wall in propose because im not giving him advantge over this

So i may aswell wf your cap to prevent ukraine from expanding turn 2?
My blitzkrig turkey depends on 2 layers of walls, i been doing that since 2013.

sorry but i dont do faggy 2turn wall arround ankara like someone
and this crys about i cannot defense ankara turn 3 well i can send 110 to kiev turn 3 as turky so how cant i defense ankara?
nice logic

I actually make a coastal wall that takes 10 militia while walling my cap at the same time.
Blitzkrieg turkey can't defend ankara if Ukraine knows how to play.

How is my 10 unit wall faggy? Compared to your first turn wf that takes 1 bomber.

Written by b0nker2, 14.10.2014 at 14:13

Blitz turkey is a fail vs good players anyway regardless of how many walls you have.

Written by Goblin, 14.10.2014 at 14:14

Written by Permamuted, 14.10.2014 at 14:00

us illyrians... im done with this circular argument for now, until one of the mods try and do something about making a set of rules official. Until then it is not worth discussing since its accomplishing nothing.

but remind me not to play against youin the near future... how maddening after all the games ive played against you without a single rewall or double wall that you would make "promises" like this over a stupid disagreement.

Negotiations have failed ...i posted my offer multiple times, but you would never compromise, not even comment it ...things just have to be your way.

And your ranting about official rules and mods enforcing them ...give me a fuckin break.

And i was in a CW where acquisce big wall rewalling fucked over me and my clan mate into slowly starting to lose west.

Bonker is right actually ...competitive players need to stop being bitches. There should be only 1 rule ...no attacking capitals turn 2. All else permited ...might just freshen up this game.

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 14:16

Written by b0nker2, 14.10.2014 at 14:13

Blitz turkey is a fail vs good players anyway regardless of how many walls you have.

My blitzkrieg turkey is different than the one used by many rushers, i hardly use it, but when i do it heavily depends on walls, wfing my double capital wall turn 1 literally fucks it up.

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 14:16

Written by b0nker2, 14.10.2014 at 14:13

Blitz turkey is a fail vs good players anyway regardless of how many walls you have.

My blitzkrieg turkey is different than the one used by many rushers, i hardly use it, but when i do it heavily depends on walls, wfing my double capital wall turn 1 literally fucks it up.

Written by b0nker2, 14.10.2014 at 14:19

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 14:16

Written by b0nker2, 14.10.2014 at 14:13

Blitz turkey is a fail vs good players anyway regardless of how many walls you have.

My blitzkrieg turkey is different than the one used by many rushers, i hardly use it, but when i do it heavily depends on walls, wfing my double capital wall turn 1 literally fucks it up.

Keep it simple. Is the unit on your land? No, Is the Unit Wfing any Cites? No. Then where is the problem?

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 14:22

Written by b0nker2, 14.10.2014 at 14:19

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 14:16

Written by b0nker2, 14.10.2014 at 14:13

Blitz turkey is a fail vs good players anyway regardless of how many walls you have.

My blitzkrieg turkey is different than the one used by many rushers, i hardly use it, but when i do it heavily depends on walls, wfing my double capital wall turn 1 literally fucks it up.

Keep it simple. Is the unit on your land? No, Is the Unit Wfing any Cites? No. Then where is the problem?

I could put a bomber in the english channel, and it wouldn't be in his land

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 14:22

Written by b0nker2, 14.10.2014 at 14:19

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 14:16

Written by b0nker2, 14.10.2014 at 14:13

Blitz turkey is a fail vs good players anyway regardless of how many walls you have.

My blitzkrieg turkey is different than the one used by many rushers, i hardly use it, but when i do it heavily depends on walls, wfing my double capital wall turn 1 literally fucks it up.

Keep it simple. Is the unit on your land? No, Is the Unit Wfing any Cites? No. Then where is the problem?

I could put a bomber in the english channel, and it wouldn't be in his land

Written by Permamuted, 14.10.2014 at 04:13

Written by Madara, 13.10.2014 at 20:01

Chill out guys !I usually don't post on threads like these because they usually just turn into flame wars thanks to the majority of the community being what it is. But, shouldn't coalitions just clarify before CW whether or not they'll allow 'bigwall' around capitol first turn?

Personally, I think Goblin makes a lot of sense and his argument would be the safer route. But really, It all boils down to game play etiquette of both coalitions. Like rewalling, shouldn't there be a fair way to prevent such a desperate move like 'bigwalls'? If 1st turn wallfuck is the only option there shouldn't be any 'bigwalls' 1st turn anywhere. If you're going to secure your capitol with a big wall like it's WW2 you can't quite complain when a part of it is 'wallfucked' because you're units were 'wasted'. You don't always benefit from your investments. However, I had no problem with rewalling when it first came around because it was easy to prevent and I've never had a problem with someone using a 'bigwall' on their capitol first turn. If it gets wallfucked under the same circumstances as Odessa and Hamburg, you can't attack it but could you wallfuck it inside to make sure he doesn't benefit? Completely up to the community, majority rules. All in all, I don't see there being a consensus anytime soon but some critical thinking can go a long way in speeding up to a conclusion.

The argument behind wallfucking the bigwall on France being legal because "the unit isn't actually in France" is fairly idiotic in my opinion. Doesn't that mean you could wallfuck any wall as long as your unit is on the other side of the border ? I'm sure not 100% understanding the logic behind that argument. And please enough flaming guys.

Hurrah. (Had to type this really quick more than likely mistakes, sorry about that)

you seem to be an idealist madara, have these threads taught you nothing? Coalitions are not going to be able to agree on whats fair or not any more than individual players. In regards to your third paragraph, this is exactly what syrian did to me, he placed a unit on turks boarder opening my circle wall turn 1. His clanmates supported his actions.

what he did in my book is even worse than what w4r did, this time it was deliberate.

given the no turn 1 wf rule, common courtesy would result in most players not interfering with walls on another persons territory turn 1, if this happened accidentally they would pretend the wall is there. The only people who disagree with this are those who dislike double walls and it interferes with their notion of fairplay. then theres also people like bonker who think its ok to wf turn 1 as long as your unit isnt on their territory and you dont attack the cities to be walled.

Written by b0nker2, 14.10.2014 at 14:25

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 14:22

Written by b0nker2, 14.10.2014 at 14:19

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 14:16

Written by b0nker2, 14.10.2014 at 14:13

Blitz turkey is a fail vs good players anyway regardless of how many walls you have.

My blitzkrieg turkey is different than the one used by many rushers, i hardly use it, but when i do it heavily depends on walls, wfing my double capital wall turn 1 literally fucks it up.

Keep it simple. Is the unit on your land? No, Is the Unit Wfing any Cites? No. Then where is the problem?

I could put a bomber in the english channel, and it wouldn't be in his land

and if it didn't interupt the walling of a CITY I would care less, since as I have said it is the players choice to attempt (and that is what it is an attempt not a right) to make a double wall. Just in the same way I 'attempt' to wf your walls once they are down.

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 14:31

Written by b0nker2, 14.10.2014 at 14:25

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 14:22

Written by b0nker2, 14.10.2014 at 14:19

Written by Tundy, 14.10.2014 at 14:16

Written by b0nker2, 14.10.2014 at 14:13

Blitz turkey is a fail vs good players anyway regardless of how many walls you have.

My blitzkrieg turkey is different than the one used by many rushers, i hardly use it, but when i do it heavily depends on walls, wfing my double capital wall turn 1 literally fucks it up.

Keep it simple. Is the unit on your land? No, Is the Unit Wfing any Cites? No. Then where is the problem?

I could put a bomber in the english channel, and it wouldn't be in his land

and if it didn't interupt the walling of a CITY I would care less, since as I have said it is the players choice to attempt (and that is what it is an attempt not a right) to make a double wall. Just in the same way I 'attempt' to wf your walls once they are down.

Then whats the point of walling at all? We may aswell make it illegal to attack caps turn 2, that way i don't have to wall and i can use those 3 units to expand.

Written by b0nker2, 14.10.2014 at 14:23

Originally there were no rules, the only one the community came up with was 'no wf first turn' and that is the only rule here that actually allows for a game to develop and makes sense. The rest of this nonsense is creating such a repetitive experience that is becoming mundane and boring to the extreme. Next we will argue that WF's are unfair in general .

Written by b0nker2, 14.10.2014 at 14:23

Let me make this clear, I like Laochra as a person and a player, but he is over analyzing every aspect of the 'competitive game' the last 2/3 months. From re-walling to selections and now to the use of walls, seriously. Originally there were no rules, the only one the community came up with was 'no wf first turn' and that is the only rule here that actually allows for a game to develop and makes sense. The rest of this nonsense is creating such a repetitive experience that is becoming mundane and boring to the extreme. Next we will argue that WF's are unfair in general .

Written by Goblin, 14.10.2014 at 14:37

Written by b0nker2, 14.10.2014 at 14:23

Originally there were no rules, the only one the community came up with was 'no wf first turn' and that is the only rule here that actually allows for a game to develop and makes sense. The rest of this nonsense is creating such a repetitive experience that is becoming mundane and boring to the extreme. Next we will argue that WF's are unfair in general .

I say we bring this back and us "no wf cap first turn" rule ...everything else (outside territory), permited.

Even things like making walls in your enemy teritory 1st turn, etc. etc.

and we bring back old school 2 3 min turns!!!! ... ...to much