Israel

Why do you feel this should be?

American money should go towards Americans. American soldiers should defend American lives. American allies should be allies and not stingy parasites that lobby their allies government to radically change its society so they can keep leeching off them.

Israel is getting fund by the us as nato friend as the same as morroco as the same as egypt as the same as pakistan.

Written by Rock Lee, 22.01.2016 at 09:03

Israel is getting fund by the us as nato friend as the same as morroco as the same as egypt as the same as pakistan.

>Implying Israel is a better ally than Morocco
Morocco didn't blow up the USS Liberty or the other dozen incidents of Israeli espionage and aggression against the USA.

All Americans oppose any foreign aid to any countries. Including its founders.

Quote:

"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations - entangling alliances with none." - Thomas Jefferson

Written by Tik-Tok, 22.01.2016 at 09:12

Written by Rock Lee, 22.01.2016 at 09:03

Israel is getting fund by the us as nato friend as the same as morroco as the same as egypt as the same as pakistan.

>Implying Israel is a better ally than Morocco
Morocco didn't blow up the USS Liberty or the other dozen incidents of Israeli espionage and aggression against the USA.

All Americans oppose any foreign aid to any countries. Including its founders.

Quote:

"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations - entangling alliances with none." - Thomas Jefferson

i never implied such a thing.

and be honest, you think the united kingdom does'nt spy on the us? or usa does'nt spy on both of those two nations? when you have the option to know you don't take risks.

yes the americans public opposes funds, but for over a century the american goverments keep doing it all over the world for many diffrend reasons, perhaps they are doing it judiciously some times for the interest of their own nations?

Written by Rock Lee, 22.01.2016 at 09:18

and be honest, you think the united kingdom does'nt spy on the us? or usa does'nt spy on both of those two nations? when you have the option to know you don't take risks.

Since the Anglo American alliance was formed, Britain has never attacked a US vessel nor used espionage or stolen information and weapons from the US which led to serious diplomatic fallout. Neither does Britain take US aid. The relationship has been pretty bad for Brits to be honest. But we'd both be better off without you involved.

Written by Rock Lee, 22.01.2016 at 09:18

yes the americans public opposes funds, but for over a century the american goverments keep doing it all over the world for many diffrend reasons, perhaps they are doing it judiciously some times for the interest of their own nations?

Oh please, British citizens don't want to fund you either, nor anyone else. None of this aid benefits us, it benefits multi national businessmen who open our borders and manipulate our governments to prevent energy competition. The question was asked, should the US support Israel? The answer is no. The relationship is detrimental as are the policies in the Middle East and across the world. It harms the US population, it harms our interests and only benefits a multi national elite.

Written by Tik-Tok, 22.01.2016 at 09:33

Written by Rock Lee, 22.01.2016 at 09:18

and be honest, you think the united kingdom does'nt spy on the us? or usa does'nt spy on both of those two nations? when you have the option to know you don't take risks.

Since the Anglo American alliance was formed, Britain has never attacked a US vessel nor used espionage or stolen information and weapons from the US which led to serious diplomatic fallout. Neither does Britain take US aid. The relationship has been pretty bad for Brits to be honest. But we'd both be better off without you involved.

Written by Rock Lee, 22.01.2016 at 09:18

yes the americans public opposes funds, but for over a century the american goverments keep doing it all over the world for many diffrend reasons, perhaps they are doing it judiciously some times for the interest of their own nations?

Oh please, British citizens don't want to fund you either, nor anyone else. None of this aid benefits us, it benefits multi national businessmen who open our borders and manipulate our governments to prevent energy competition. The question was asked, should the US support Israel? The answer is no. The relationship is detrimental as are the policies in the Middle East and across the world. It harms the US population, it harms our interests and only benefits a multi national elite.

and yet we hear about spying arguments between usa and europe all the time. and as the few as i know about uk history i still know they did help you to survive in the world wars.

as far as i know, the uk actually holds military embarggo against israel in some aspects for many years, in the sixtees uk and france had full military embarggo on israel.

i want to make it clear, except few exceptions the us funds don't really matter but only symbolic, the aid is only 0.5% of the israeli budget, and as far as i know israel has saves in dollars that exceeds 800% of its own gdp for critical times.

you need to understand the picture - Israel is considered ally of nato and the usa, the american governments helped to rebuild the army of lebanon, financed them their own air force and keeps sending them monies every year, they give the same funds to jordan and they fund and suppurt egyptian army, eventually policy should reflect something, so as i said, that's symbolic.

should america be involved in the middle east? i don't know, but eventually like all others powers among and before them, they tried to get influence in every region in the world, i don't know much about geopolitics to tell you why they care about the middle east, but everyone knows that in our days geoplitics matters a lot, we are just a piece in the puzzle of the middle east.

Remove Israel

Written by Guest, 22.01.2016 at 10:25

Remove Israel

yup, everything would be better without us.

I love tik toks fanboys. go in packs of 4

Written by Khal.eesi, 22.01.2016 at 12:27

I love tik toks fanboys. go in packs of 4

I was just thinking the same thing

Written by Rock Lee, 22.01.2016 at 09:55

and yet we hear about spying arguments between usa and europe all the time. and as the few as i know about uk history i still know they did help you to survive in the world wars.

Survive? For what? To be ruled by progressive globalists that destroyed the family, wiped out communities and opened borders? No thanks, I'd pick Uncle Adolf any day over Uncle Sam as would most veterans still alive today.

Written by Rock Lee, 22.01.2016 at 09:55

as far as i know, the uk actually holds military embarggo against israel in some aspects for many years, in the sixtees uk and france had full military embarggo on israel.

>60s

Still not justifying an alliance here. All I hear is a lot of 'me me me'.

Written by Rock Lee, 22.01.2016 at 09:55

i want to make it clear, except few exceptions the us funds don't really matter but only symbolic, the aid is only 0.5% of the israeli budget, and as far as i know israel has saves in dollars that exceeds 800% of its own gdp for critical times.

Then you clearly don't need it then, do you?

Written by Rock Lee, 22.01.2016 at 09:55

you need to understand the picture - Israel is considered ally of nato and the usa, the american governments helped to rebuild the army of lebanon, financed them their own air force and keeps sending them monies every year, they give the same funds to jordan and they fund and suppurt egyptian army, eventually policy should reflect something, so as i said, that's symbolic.

I don't see why any of you should receive US or UK taxpaying money. Not a sodding bean.

Written by Rock Lee, 22.01.2016 at 09:55

should america be involved in the middle east? i don't know, but eventually like all others powers among and before them, they tried to get influence in every region in the world, i don't know much about geopolitics to tell you why they care about the middle east, but everyone knows that in our days geoplitics matters a lot, we are just a piece in the puzzle of the middle east.

It doesn't. It only matters to the owners of energy pipelines. Whoever owns will sell it, usually at the same price. All these wars are fought so one multi national corporation can put their label on the pipeline, backed by their international alliance. But in the end, it doesn't matter, it will get sold anyway. So who cares who owns it? I don't. Over 7 trillion was spent on these wars. 7 fucking trillion. Do you have any idea what 7 trillion could do?

A trillion alone could make the whole of the Middle East irrelevant. 7 would make Asia irrelevant. Do you know how much it would cost to mine an asteroid? 5 billion. A single asteroid contains more iron in it than all the iron mined throughout human history. It's rare earth metal content would eclipse the entire Chinese market. It also contains an abundant supply of platinum, gold and nickel. A single asteroid would be worth a trillion. All for a 2-5 billion investment. We could mine 200 asteroids with 1/7th of the US cost of middle eastern wars over the last decade.

Just 3-5 asteroids would likely be enough to flood most urban areas with solar power, as solar power requires rare earth metals which the Chinese currently corner the market on. But who would need China with asteroid mining? Entire cities running on solar, with a higher efficiency brought about by better research and development. Why not invest in thorium? Geo Thermal? Hydro? Invest in electric cars, powered by local charge up stations running on an near infinite sustainable supply of energy. Make plastics redundant with better development in fake plastics. Make oil utterly redundant and tell the Russians they can eat their own gas as homes are warmed by either the sun or the bowels of the Earth. The Germans recently developed a new nuclear fusion reactor on just 20 billion. More efficient than anything seen before of its kind. The US could build 50 of them on 1/7th of the war cost. We could burn all the patents energy moguls have bought over the years from inventors to prevent competition to their control over energy. Seize their assets if need be and build the inventions they refused to make.

We could make the entire Asian continent utterly irrelevant in a decade. Fuck your House of Saud, Fuck your Iranian revolution, Fuck your Israel's and your Palestine's. Squirm in the dirt over your Sharia and your Maoism while Western Civilization conquers the galaxy and builds godly wonders with a never ending supply of energy and metal. We could achieve all of that on a fraction of the budget that these wars have cost us.

But no... instead our occupied states and governments are manipulated by globalist progressive capitalists who use our labor to destabilize middle eastern states so these same corporate businessmen can put their labels on pipelines to sell us oil and gas we wouldn't need if we invested in legitimate alternatives.

There is no 'puzzle' that needs working out. It isn't a puzzle, it's a pyramid ponzi scheme and we're at the bottom. We pay out so people at the top can get rich on things selling us things we don't need. 7 trillion dollars would put Asia back into the stone age, decades behind the West, begging to catch up as they pollute their environments just to get a smidgen of what we can build without them. No colonization, no state destabilization, no interfering. Just good old fashioned exploration and world building. So long China, Adios Russia, Sayonara Israel and Saudi Arabia. Enjoy squabbling over scraps while we terraform Mars.

The only reason your state and even the continent you are on is even relevant is because lobbyists make it so. Under a proper Fascist state, we would be so far ahead of you all, you would be barbarians looking from the outside at the glory of Rome. And if you dared charge at the gates, we could annihilate you from orbit just by dropping rocks we don't need.

That is why we don't need Israel. That is why you are terrible allies. You and the rest of the power moguls are holding us back from the godhood we desire and proudly earned through thousands of years of struggle and competition. We could rule the stars with the power of the state if it wasn't usurped by parasites.

We don't need your alliance, we don't even need your entire continent. That is the power of a Fascist Western State.

Written by Tik-Tok, 22.01.2016 at 13:22

bla

well tik tok i know you since 2012 and you still don't accept the diffrence between what you actually know to what sounds good in your head in the first two seconds and i'm glad to say that i don't have time for that anymore, farewell.

Written by Rock Lee, 22.01.2016 at 13:34

Written by Tik-Tok, 22.01.2016 at 13:22

bla

well tik tok i know you since 2012 and you still don't accept the diffrence between what you actually know to what sounds good in your head in the first two seconds and i'm glad to say that i don't have time for that anymore, farewell.

It is known. It isn't science fiction, it's science fact which has been pushed back into pre development since the 1960s thanks to multi national energy moguls who want to keep a stranglehold on energy. You have shown no reason why the US or the UK should remain allies with Israel. We don't need you, you need us. You should be paying us for support.

Written by Rock Lee, 22.01.2016 at 10:29

Written by Guest, 22.01.2016 at 10:25

Remove Israel

yup, everything would be better without us.

No! don't leave me bruh.

Remove Jordan, they have no oil.

Written by clovis1122, 23.01.2016 at 12:05

Written by Rock Lee, 22.01.2016 at 10:29

Written by Guest, 22.01.2016 at 10:25

Remove Israel

yup, everything would be better without us.

No! don't leave me bruh.

Remove Jordan, they have no oil.

But Jordan is the only country in the region I like (other than Israel)

Written by Tik-Tok, 22.01.2016 at 08:57

American money should go towards Americans.

Nah, better to invest it in military-industrial complex and invade Iraq killing 1 million people in 15 years occupation and taking their oil.

Written by Tik-Tok, 22.01.2016 at 09:33

Neither does Britain take US aid.

Are you serious? I mean we know you're a nazi, but this... seriously... Did your parents dropped you on the head when you was a baby? Or did bullies beat you too much in school?

Britain (England and its occupied countries of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland) always lived on foreign work and resources. It had to colonize 3/4 of the planet so they could live like other normal countries. Today when you lost your colonies you need to surgically attach yourself to USA so you can continue to exist like a functional country.

Written by Skanderbeg, 22.02.2016 at 08:02

Nah, better to invest it in military-industrial complex and invade Iraq killing 1 million people in 15 years occupation and taking their oil.

lol.

Written by Skanderbeg, 22.02.2016 at 08:02

Did your parents dropped you on the head when you was a baby? Or did bullies beat you too much in school?

lol,what to tell to you,your father was riding a pope so you are today like this?

Written by Skanderbeg, 22.02.2016 at 08:02

Britain (England and its occupied countries of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland)

hhahahahhahahahaa,lol,even 4months old baby would cry of laughing when baby hears this sentence.

Written by Skanderbeg, 22.02.2016 at 08:02

always lived on foreign work and resources.

explain me what was happening before the years of colonization?

Written by Skanderbeg, 22.02.2016 at 08:02

It had to colonize 3/4 of the planet so they could live like other normal countries.

1/4* and britan was strongest empire in that time,gj for being idiotic.

Written by Skanderbeg, 22.02.2016 at 08:02

Today when you lost your colonies you need to surgically attach yourself to USA so you can continue to exist like a functional country.

thats why they joined EU for sure



As always,tito numbers,not welcome here

Yes

Written by Abraham, 23.01.2016 at 08:06

.... Had so much trouble finding where this music was coming from... thanks.

For the next episode...watch the denial of the Holocaust and more of Tito's wrong numbers!


Tito seriously, calling Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland occupied territory isn't correct. They still have their freedoms and much of the autonomy, they just have a common prime-minister and a common monarch! We all know they'd be better united as GB than independent from each other.


Regarding such subject, US should stop funding Israelians, and any other country in the Middle East, not their region, so don't meddle in their issues.

Besides, why should we fund Israel, a country that massacres Palestinians under the protection and benevolence of UN because the poor jews were slaughtered in WW2 so the UN and US and EU won't do shit because the ghost of Holocaust always comes to life? Nonsense.
Personally, I dislike Israel due to their attitude towards their neighbours (in some part they're right) and because they always call themselves victims and shit. They don't need US funding nor any other funding, they can do just fine without funds, besides, it's just an occupied land what they have, it's not even theirs lel

Written by Al Fappino, 23.02.2016 at 04:22

Tito seriously, calling Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland occupied territory isn't correct. They still have their freedoms and much of the autonomy, they just have a common prime-minister and a common monarch! We all know they'd be better united as GB than independent from each other.

Yes, Wales and Scotland decided freely to become part of England, pardon me, i meant 'British Union'. Thousands of dead Scottish fighting English invasions through time is a tito lie. Because tito created history books and distributed them around the world, so billions of people learn fake history.

Not to mention English desperate hold of Northern Ireland while they are one of the loudest when comes to blame Russia for Crimea. They also invaded Serbia with 20 more NATO countries under excuse 'Serbia occupied Kosovo', but they were fast to send troops to fight Argentinians 10,000km far away on Malvinas. Why so much hypocricy?

Written by Al Fappino, 23.02.2016 at 04:22

Regarding such subject, US should stop funding Israelians, and any other country in the Middle East, not their region, so don't meddle in their issues.

Besides, why should we fund Israel, a country that massacres Palestinians under the protection and benevolence of UN because the poor jews were slaughtered in WW2 so the UN and US and EU won't do shit because the ghost of Holocaust always comes to life? Nonsense.
Personally, I dislike Israel due to their attitude towards their neighbours (in some part they're right) and because they always call themselves victims and shit. They don't need US funding nor any other funding, they can do just fine without funds, besides, it's just an occupied land what they have, it's not even theirs lel

Israel doesn't follow Western orwellian rules and so have to be perverted and put down. There are no proofs that Israel is oppressing Arabs or Palestinians, but there are alot of proofs that Arab countries invaded Israel countless times in history. Yet you won't anyone mention that, but everyone is fast to blame Israel for imprisoning hooligans for throwing rocks on civilians.

It is pointless to talk to you because you have no basic knowledge, let alone international politics or history. And i don't blame you, you live on the Orwellian West, they gave you freedom to do business and nothing more, everything else is under strick control. They had to brainwash you so they can use you as cannon fodder for their wars against Free World, since you are predators/hunters, you need slaves and other countries' resources to survive and maintain your economies. You are unable to function unless you import knowledge, gold, oil, workforce.. Why am i talking this to you.. you already know that... you Portuguese started it.. by sending ships to find slaves and gold so you don't have to work but still enjoy fruits of life.

Written by Skanderbeg, 22.02.2016 at 08:02

Written by Tik-Tok, 22.01.2016 at 08:57

American money should go towards Americans.

Nah, better to invest it in military-industrial complex and invade Iraq killing 1 million people in 15 years occupation and taking their oil.

Written by Tik-Tok, 22.01.2016 at 09:33

Neither does Britain take US aid.

Are you serious? I mean we know you're a nazi, but this... seriously... Did your parents dropped you on the head when you was a baby? Or did bullies beat you too much in school?

Britain (England and its occupied countries of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland) always lived on foreign work and resources. It had to colonize 3/4 of the planet so they could live like other normal countries. Today when you lost your colonies you need to surgically attach yourself to USA so you can continue to exist like a functional country.

Strawman: The Thread Post

Written by Tik-Tok, 14.04.2016 at 14:42

Strawman: The Thread Post

Can you explain in what context you use 'strawman' word? I don't understand.

I am not sure if it is native english jargon, or english-language-wide.

Written by Skanderbeg, 15.04.2016 at 07:12

Written by Tik-Tok, 14.04.2016 at 14:42

Strawman: The Thread Post

Can you explain in what context you use 'strawman' word? I don't understand.

I am not sure if it is native english jargon, or english-language-wide.

When you respond to someone, shitting over an argumment that he didnt even say... very common type of fallacy in AW forums

Written by Goblin, 15.04.2016 at 07:34

When you respond to someone, shitting over an argumment that he didnt even say... very common type of fallacy in AW forums

Thanks for explanation. Now i understand Tik-Tok and his targeting people as ideological frontmen

The holohaux, wasn't real! It was a Jewish plot to gain sympothe from the world, which allowed them to cease control of global economics through buying up all the banks, and now our media schools, and government.
Now they pin us against each other since we out number them while they slowly enslave world.

Written by Helly, 15.04.2016 at 15:03

The holohaux, wasn't real! It was a Jewish plot to gain sympothe from the world, which allowed them to cease control of global economics through buying up all the banks, and now our media schools, and government.
Now they pin us against each other since we out number them while they slowly enslave world.

Written by Black Swans, 15.04.2016 at 15:12

Written by Helly, 15.04.2016 at 15:03

The holohaux, wasn't real! It was a Jewish plot to gain sympothe from the world, which allowed them to cease control of global economics through buying up all the banks, and now our media schools, and government.
Now they pin us against each other since we out number them while they slowly enslave world.

I thought it sounded crazy enough that people would know lol.