I demand removal of Paradox vs. Helghasts CW
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Since theFuehrer didnt want to agree with removal of that CW, I will need a support of community and mods so it can affect on Ivan/Amok to remove it.
Before reading, let me just mention that CW between Mortal Kombat and Cosa Nostra was removed by admins because of similiar reasons (2 seasons ago). I know cuz I participated in that cw.
I will tell the most detailed story about all those issues with a CW against Helghasts.
Im gonna be calmed down while typing this, cuz if nothing is going to be solved about this cw, I just dont see any single reason to stay here anymore.
So, I will write it in 3 paragraphs:
1. Before CW / Croats searching for CW
2. During CW / Gameplay and spectactors
3. End of CW / After CW
1. Before CW / Croat's searching for CW
- Since I was forum banned, I wasnt of forums these days and since I was studying, I wasnt online. When I finally came on, all I wanted was one CW. So, I searched for it (dat logic). I saw Victorious Secret and Illy are already playing so I decided to take a look on my friend list (!! remember, FRIEND list) to ask some guys for CW. All were busy, but not theFuehrer , so I thought 'Why not to ask him' and it was like this:
Croat: 'CW?'
He answered exactly this 'ok'
I made a CW, but he gone to play a duel against Plato. I told him I can give him some tips while playing if needed, because I was bored since no cw, expect waiting theFuehrer to end that duel.
Whole the game I was giving him tips and after duel ended, I asked that guy again:
Croat: 'dude can we CW now?'
theFuehrer: 'ok'
Croat: 'Come in I already made a game'
theFuehrer: 'I would rather duel, I need Elo'
I said on that just to start a CW faster that I am not playing duels this season and I will give him all Elo cuz I dont care about that, even from alts if needed, but I just begged him to come CW cuz he agreed twice. I told him clearly, if I win, my clan is going to be on 2nd place on the leaderboard, what is a big deal for me and for my clan which is on scene only for a month. It means to me, you know, and I am playing every CW with some adrenaline because this is first time that I am founder and main leader of some coalition, so logically, I want all best to my clan.
This is our chat, I was so impatient while waiting him in cw room:
2. During CW / Gameplay and spectactors
- Before picking, I asked him about 3 times I think (HOLY GRAIL CAN CONFIRM !!!), does he want 1v1, 2v2 or 3v3 CW ? Telling again, I asked him that 3 times. Everytime he said he wants 1v1. So, I accepted it.
We started picking.
He had first pick and took Germany.
I had 2nd pick and took UK. (I was NC)
1st turn:
Croat took Belgium and Norway (He killed mine 4 units in NL)
theFuehrer took NL and Danmark (I killed his 7 units in Norway)
2nd turn
Croat TBED NL, took Cologne (8 units) and Frankfurt (6 units) from Belgium and London (saved an reinf for a transport in 2nd turn) and took Munchen (10 units) + this city south from Berlin (4 units) with Norway stack and latemoved Danmark.
theFuehrer got TBED 9 units in NL (2 militia 7 infs), took Poland from Danmark and stacked Berlin.
Practically,
Croat had whole UK, Belgium, NL, Norway, Danmark, all Germany cities except Hamburg (0) and Berlin
and all that theFuehrer had was NL, Czech, Poland and only 2 cities in Germany (0 in Hamburg and Berlin)
3rd turn
Croat was good with connection but laggy, 1 min before end of the turn Croat disconnected.
the fuehrer makes all so he caps Croat and retakes some Germany cities
4th turn
Croat apologises for dc and asks for tie.
theFuehrer accepts with EXACTLY those words: 'ok but no rematch'
So Croat tells him to move his units from London so he can recap and after that turn tie.
About 7 or 8 times Croat explains to him: 'just move units out of London so I can recap, next turn tie'
theFuehrer: 'ok' and he moved his stack to the all UK cities and left 1 in London
5th turn (reinf turn)
Croat sent 9 infs on that 1 sea transport in London
But theFuehrer uses all reinfs from UK and puts all units in London. He had 69 units in London when Croat gone to recap himself, so obviously he used units from Germany or NL to stack London even more.
In the lasts seconds of CW, theFuehrer says: 'They told me to stack London, I cant undo'
All spectactors hoped he is kidding. 20 seconds till the end of turn.
theFuehrer: 'I cant undo, sorry'
I will say exactly words of dinoscout: 'Than refresh if you cannot undo'
No, he didnt refresh, he waited until turn ends.
Croat loses a CW.
3. END OF CW / AFTER CW
Logically, I was trying to know WHY he did that, but with caps lock on sometimes, you will understand me why.
I admit, I insulted him once after he said: 'Im going to gym now, we can talk later'
I told him: 'I will bomb it, better dont go'
That was my hardest 'insult' to him.
On the other side, take a look on his lies (firstly spam chat, secondly someone other told him to stack London, thirdly I tbed him (?!?!?!?!), fourthly it was a bug, fifth he didnt want to tell who told him to stack London with an excuse 'I have bad memory' ) while we were chatting what happened and why he did that miserable thing in CW:
1. I couldnt TB him because I attacked only that 1 sea trasnsport which was in London with 9 infs
2. It couldnt be a bug, because there is no any single explanation for that kind of bug '69 units spawned in London' lol wtf
3. Even if someone else trolled him and told him to stack London, he could use his brain, also I pmed him 10 times not to move anything cuz im recapping
4. Spam chat cannot whipe his brain out so he stacks 69 in London, if so than I really understand why his brain thinks that Earth is a flat. Its called chicken brain.
5. He told that he got bad memory to remember who told him to stack London.....................
Whatsmore, I got some profs of each spectactor and witness from our CW, so take a look:
STRIKO:
DINOSCOUT:
OPI:
PANTERI:
And for last there is a talk between striko and fuehrer in some 3v3 after this cw:
'SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH' like 'Earth is flat' or like 'stop talking that in public'
Now really, you can hate me or love me, but please, this time think as a player of this game.
I opened my clan before a month, I want it all best and I want this CW to be restored/removed/deleted, whatever.
I prohibited another CWs of Paradox until we solve this, so the amount of Elo is not being ruined. It will ruin after either Paradox, either Helghasts play another cw,
so I beg you too not to play a CW with Helghasts until we solve this.
Whatsmore, if you can support me as community or if mods can do that with affecting on Ivan and discussing about this, I would appreciate that as a person who gave really much of myself for this game, I know I abused either global, either forums sometimes, but still I gave my best for improvement of an atWar. Only thing I am searching for (back) is to solve this CW in a proper way, because this is just crap thing.
If no and if we are going to allow those kind of things done by some random narbs, I just wont deal with that anymore, this will be my last here.
Cheers,
Croat
Before reading, let me just mention that CW between Mortal Kombat and Cosa Nostra was removed by admins because of similiar reasons (2 seasons ago). I know cuz I participated in that cw.
I will tell the most detailed story about all those issues with a CW against Helghasts.
Im gonna be calmed down while typing this, cuz if nothing is going to be solved about this cw, I just dont see any single reason to stay here anymore.
So, I will write it in 3 paragraphs:
1. Before CW / Croats searching for CW
2. During CW / Gameplay and spectactors
3. End of CW / After CW
1. Before CW / Croat's searching for CW
- Since I was forum banned, I wasnt of forums these days and since I was studying, I wasnt online. When I finally came on, all I wanted was one CW. So, I searched for it (dat logic). I saw Victorious Secret and Illy are already playing so I decided to take a look on my friend list (!! remember, FRIEND list) to ask some guys for CW. All were busy, but not theFuehrer , so I thought 'Why not to ask him' and it was like this:
Croat: 'CW?'
He answered exactly this 'ok'
I made a CW, but he gone to play a duel against Plato. I told him I can give him some tips while playing if needed, because I was bored since no cw, expect waiting theFuehrer to end that duel.
Whole the game I was giving him tips and after duel ended, I asked that guy again:
Croat: 'dude can we CW now?'
theFuehrer: 'ok'
Croat: 'Come in I already made a game'
theFuehrer: 'I would rather duel, I need Elo'
I said on that just to start a CW faster that I am not playing duels this season and I will give him all Elo cuz I dont care about that, even from alts if needed, but I just begged him to come CW cuz he agreed twice. I told him clearly, if I win, my clan is going to be on 2nd place on the leaderboard, what is a big deal for me and for my clan which is on scene only for a month. It means to me, you know, and I am playing every CW with some adrenaline because this is first time that I am founder and main leader of some coalition, so logically, I want all best to my clan.
This is our chat, I was so impatient while waiting him in cw room:
2. During CW / Gameplay and spectactors
- Before picking, I asked him about 3 times I think (HOLY GRAIL CAN CONFIRM !!!), does he want 1v1, 2v2 or 3v3 CW ? Telling again, I asked him that 3 times. Everytime he said he wants 1v1. So, I accepted it.
We started picking.
He had first pick and took Germany.
I had 2nd pick and took UK. (I was NC)
1st turn:
Croat took Belgium and Norway (He killed mine 4 units in NL)
theFuehrer took NL and Danmark (I killed his 7 units in Norway)
2nd turn
Croat TBED NL, took Cologne (8 units) and Frankfurt (6 units) from Belgium and London (saved an reinf for a transport in 2nd turn) and took Munchen (10 units) + this city south from Berlin (4 units) with Norway stack and latemoved Danmark.
theFuehrer got TBED 9 units in NL (2 militia 7 infs), took Poland from Danmark and stacked Berlin.
Practically,
Croat had whole UK, Belgium, NL, Norway, Danmark, all Germany cities except Hamburg (0) and Berlin
and all that theFuehrer had was NL, Czech, Poland and only 2 cities in Germany (0 in Hamburg and Berlin)
3rd turn
Croat was good with connection but laggy, 1 min before end of the turn Croat disconnected.
the fuehrer makes all so he caps Croat and retakes some Germany cities
4th turn
Croat apologises for dc and asks for tie.
theFuehrer accepts with EXACTLY those words: 'ok but no rematch'
So Croat tells him to move his units from London so he can recap and after that turn tie.
About 7 or 8 times Croat explains to him: 'just move units out of London so I can recap, next turn tie'
theFuehrer: 'ok' and he moved his stack to the all UK cities and left 1 in London
5th turn (reinf turn)
Croat sent 9 infs on that 1 sea transport in London
But theFuehrer uses all reinfs from UK and puts all units in London. He had 69 units in London when Croat gone to recap himself, so obviously he used units from Germany or NL to stack London even more.
In the lasts seconds of CW, theFuehrer says: 'They told me to stack London, I cant undo'
All spectactors hoped he is kidding. 20 seconds till the end of turn.
theFuehrer: 'I cant undo, sorry'
I will say exactly words of dinoscout: 'Than refresh if you cannot undo'
No, he didnt refresh, he waited until turn ends.
Croat loses a CW.
3. END OF CW / AFTER CW
Logically, I was trying to know WHY he did that, but with caps lock on sometimes, you will understand me why.
I admit, I insulted him once after he said: 'Im going to gym now, we can talk later'
I told him: 'I will bomb it, better dont go'
That was my hardest 'insult' to him.
On the other side, take a look on his lies (firstly spam chat, secondly someone other told him to stack London, thirdly I tbed him (?!?!?!?!), fourthly it was a bug, fifth he didnt want to tell who told him to stack London with an excuse 'I have bad memory' ) while we were chatting what happened and why he did that miserable thing in CW:
1. I couldnt TB him because I attacked only that 1 sea trasnsport which was in London with 9 infs
2. It couldnt be a bug, because there is no any single explanation for that kind of bug '69 units spawned in London' lol wtf
3. Even if someone else trolled him and told him to stack London, he could use his brain, also I pmed him 10 times not to move anything cuz im recapping
4. Spam chat cannot whipe his brain out so he stacks 69 in London, if so than I really understand why his brain thinks that Earth is a flat. Its called chicken brain.
5. He told that he got bad memory to remember who told him to stack London.....................
Whatsmore, I got some profs of each spectactor and witness from our CW, so take a look:
STRIKO:
DINOSCOUT:
OPI:
PANTERI:
And for last there is a talk between striko and fuehrer in some 3v3 after this cw:
'SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH' like 'Earth is flat' or like 'stop talking that in public'
Now really, you can hate me or love me, but please, this time think as a player of this game.
I opened my clan before a month, I want it all best and I want this CW to be restored/removed/deleted, whatever.
I prohibited another CWs of Paradox until we solve this, so the amount of Elo is not being ruined. It will ruin after either Paradox, either Helghasts play another cw,
so I beg you too not to play a CW with Helghasts until we solve this.
Whatsmore, if you can support me as community or if mods can do that with affecting on Ivan and discussing about this, I would appreciate that as a person who gave really much of myself for this game, I know I abused either global, either forums sometimes, but still I gave my best for improvement of an atWar. Only thing I am searching for (back) is to solve this CW in a proper way, because this is just crap thing.
If no and if we are going to allow those kind of things done by some random narbs, I just wont deal with that anymore, this will be my last here.
Cheers,
Croat
You get what you deserve.. And IMO you deserve to die as soon as possible. Just my personal opinion, has nothing with you and your flat Earth. Round Earth is already full of 100% brain mentals like you are, so your death will only affect better on normal population.
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Alright man. What ever you say...  Lock thread.
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I will continue to cw normally, what are you proving with this SS? You asked for CW, I accepted, you were affraid to CW again..... Sapienti sat?
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If only I have your chicken brain so I can take a rest finally... Wtf are you proving with this shit lmao
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Let me share a story. summer 2013 season, cw limit 10 cws, my clan 187 has 9-0 record and we were tied for 1st place with the arab clan EC. we arrange final game a 2v2 cw with biteme2. strong players bargain and another, but me and thunderballs were way better, we would win. 1st turn i make my mooves and then dc. i come back one and half turn later. i just suicided and we lost. didnt even ask for a tie. ties were not popular then. ec proceeded to farm a VS weak lineup brought by safari and we lost the season. over the years we have disconect in cws and taken advantage of by virtually every clan in existance with the exception of mk and illyria. it is a very often occurance. it certainly is a painfull feeling and leaves a bitter taste, i feel your pain bud. tldr this is classic, kebabs do it all the time. i agree with bonker, while its immoral and unjust and i support you, its not against the rules. boycot away 
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I demand Khal getting active again
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maybe..sometime...blame 
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work... D:? plz stop taking khal from me
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Man, Fuehrer... I don't like to have bad opinions about spanish speakers but you've gone off the line, already... First you hate mare for no reason, keep pillorying him in public channels and when asked for reason, give no one. And now you do this? First person ever like 'he blocked my ports, I must kill him'... That's no excuse. sometimes I even wall my enemy's cap when he's not trustworthy, and you've just proved to not be trustworthy (exactly the type of players for which we have to do preventive moves. Croat was very right when he decide to block your ports).
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Thanks on support, but I will have to prove different. What happened? (Read text and watch pictures below) Do you see mine (maroon) 2 infs north from Hamburg? Do you see my Genstack (Gen + 6 inf + 4 militia) in Munchen? Do you see my transports near NL? What I wanted to do was to put closer my Gen and those 6 infs so I can recap by them and Cologne. So, I moved Gen + 6 infs from Munhen and put them right here (no more range) so I can bring them with transports to London. No walls were made by me.  Since I put them in a range for automatic wall, the game made a wall by itself between my stack of Gen+6 inf and those 2 infs north from Hamburg. Why would I do wall which is not going in triangle and made it of 9 units and one of those 9 is my General? Just silly. As a proof, in a screenshot below you can see the turn after and how I sent those 2 infs to WF Berlin and how my transports carried Gen+6infs to the London: 
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It seems you did you read anything I said. He disrespected me and wanted tie? Hmm.. what kind of fool would I be to offer tie to a douchebag?
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The Fuehrer..Should be muted....End of story.
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Why should I be muted? If any one should be muted it should be croat. 
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Let me just mention that CW between Mortal Kombar and Cosa Nostra, before 2 seasons (I played it), was removed by Amok or Ivan.
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Not punishable. Yet growse as **** ememy list time for the Fuehrer (name says enough anyway) go back to rp, those ways of playing don't affect anything of importance their.
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Aoki's wallfucking 1st turn against Cosa Nostra was also not punishable, but the Clan War was removed.
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Just a typical example of the casual atwar retard
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Ok mate... have a cry. When I accept a tie then get insulted... don't expect me to tie with you. Enemy list me, not like it will make any difference in my life, kiddo.
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Wait, when and why the fuck was that cw removed?
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Few days before season end I think. Someone said an information that it is removed, I think Zone. Btw Cosa stayed on 2nd place so it changed nothing. Idk dude why it was removed, there were some talks with admins
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Well yeah, some clans farm on lower ranked clans, possible alts. Other clans hold their position for a very long period of time, sure. All kind of shit happens in cw's, but remove only one that has no atwar rules broken. 'cause that makes sense.
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