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Posted by Aetius, 22.08.2016 - 10:29
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Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game

gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families

Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.

Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.

Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.


Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power

Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.

Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…

Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.

Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.

Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.

At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.

Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.


At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.

Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.

Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.

Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out

16.09.2016 - 13:50
I am a unifiee, will put Populares and Postatem in the same grave.
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16.09.2016 - 13:51
Written by Darth., 16.09.2016 at 13:44

Oh Fuck off. You'd ignored me. Go back to ignoring me

Edit: I proposed the same thing, except targeting Spain not Germany since Spain has 14 strength, Germany has 20 strength. Germany isn't weaker you fucktard

Edit 2: There is no Gaul against us. With Tunder we have 4 active wars not 5. Pirates aren't an active war. Unlike you, I don't pretend to be the be-all, end-all of military strategy and actually listen to suggestions from people I know are better at it than me. Pyrrhus, Death1816, and Phoenixking come to mind.


I am better than you, fact.

Spain has harsher disaster rolls.

If you remove 1 front and stalemate the rest, what will you do when another war arises next turn?
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16.09.2016 - 13:51
Written by Tundy, 16.09.2016 at 13:50

I am a unifiee, will put Populares and Postatem in the same grave.

K
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16.09.2016 - 13:52
Written by Tundy, 16.09.2016 at 13:50

I am a unifiee, will put Populares and Postatem in the same grave.

You can try. We won't bother with a grave, just chuck your body into the Tiber, like we do to other traitors to Rome and it's ideals
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16.09.2016 - 13:56
> PMs me that he's going to pretend I don't exist
> Ignores me
> Half an hour later, unignores me, and acts like a petulant child who's upset he lost, and is acting like a whiny bitch so others won't enjoy the game either
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16.09.2016 - 13:56
Written by Darth., 16.09.2016 at 13:49

Written by Phoenix, 16.09.2016 at 13:47

Written by Darth., 16.09.2016 at 13:44

Oh Fuck off. You'd ignored me. Go back to ignoring me

Edit: I proposed the same thing, except targeting Spain not Germany since Spain has 14 strength, Germany has 20 strength. Germany isn't weaker you fucktard


Its Germany and France .... 10 a piece.... noob

It's called the Germannic migrations. France isn't invaded yet. Germany has 10 strength a piece = 20 strength versus Spain. Either way, Germany is stronger so your suggestion to attack it is stupid


You only need to fight 1 you chode!
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16.09.2016 - 14:04
I will not allow myself to give in to the unruly nature of Populares who are attempting to slander and execute me, the man who defeated Carthage when they failed at it. If I am prosecuted, I will show that Populares does not care about finding the culprit behind the untimely death of Gaius Marrius, but simply wants to regain their political power by wiping out a different factions member. Instead of dealing with the real traitor on Sicily, they are attempting a witchhunt to regain power after the rebel is defeated
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Everyone is living a myth and it's important to know what yours is. It could be a tragedy- and maybe you don't want it to be.
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16.09.2016 - 14:08
MrArmy for Dictator
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Someone Better Than You
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16.09.2016 - 15:54
Do not make MrArmy dictator, there is other people that could do better such as Safari.
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16.09.2016 - 16:15
Written by Tundy, 16.09.2016 at 15:54

Do not make MrArmy dictator, there is other people that could do better such as Safari.

You do realise you're a fucking rebel right?
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16.09.2016 - 16:25
Written by Zephyrusu, 16.09.2016 at 16:15

Written by Tundy, 16.09.2016 at 15:54

Do not make MrArmy dictator, there is other people that could do better such as Safari.

You do realise you're a fucking rebel right?


Do you realise that if Rome collapses, I lose too?
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16.09.2016 - 16:30
Written by Tundy, 16.09.2016 at 16:25

Written by Zephyrusu, 16.09.2016 at 16:15

Written by Tundy, 16.09.2016 at 15:54

Do not make MrArmy dictator, there is other people that could do better such as Safari.

You do realise you're a fucking rebel right?


Do you realise that if Rome collapses, I lose too?

Then how come you picked the worst possible moment to rebel?
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16.09.2016 - 17:50
Written by Zephyrusu, 16.09.2016 at 16:30

Written by Tundy, 16.09.2016 at 16:25

Written by Zephyrusu, 16.09.2016 at 16:15

Written by Tundy, 16.09.2016 at 15:54

Do not make MrArmy dictator, there is other people that could do better such as Safari.

You do realise you're a fucking rebel right?


Do you realise that if Rome collapses, I lose too?

Then how come you picked the worst possible moment to rebel?


Because you either attack me and risk losing the game, or you attack everyone else and risk that I get rome or other provinces.
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16.09.2016 - 18:29
Written by Tundy, 16.09.2016 at 15:54

Do not make MrArmy dictator, there is other people that could do better such as Safari.

Lol, army will destroy you if he becomes dictator... Gg
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16.09.2016 - 19:20
==Turn 15: Phase 2 has begun==
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16.09.2016 - 19:22

Assassination Attempt

Consul Gogonius Maximus Achaicus makes is way from his villa to the senate house to vote but before he does he is surrounded by thugs and a hooded figure. They cry out "Justice For Marius!". Knives flash out and he is stabbed to death in the streets.

Roll: 6 (+1 from card) =7
Result: Assassination attempt succeeds
roll proof

Gaius Marcus Africanus (Pheonixking929 ) is now leader of Potestatem
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16.09.2016 - 19:29
These assassination rolls are insane. Anyways, enjoy having me dead
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16.09.2016 - 19:34
Written by Google, 16.09.2016 at 19:29

These assassination rolls are insane. Anyways, enjoy having me dead

>not buying open bodyguards during times of high tension
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16.09.2016 - 19:36
Written by Tundy, 16.09.2016 at 19:34

Written by Google, 16.09.2016 at 19:29

These assassination rolls are insane. Anyways, enjoy having me dead

>not buying open bodyguards during times of high tension

It wouldn't have done me any good, so I really don't care.
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16.09.2016 - 19:37
Also, if Postatem had 1 tribune it would have stalemated the game by making everyone lose. Mutual destruction could have been used as an excuse to force the factions to disband.
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16.09.2016 - 19:49
Dictator Vote
1) Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Consul Vote
1) Gnaeus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu) & Cassius Caelius (Safari)

Censor Vote
2)Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.)

Praetor Vote
2)Galerius Nipius ( Death1816)

Pontifex Maximus
1)Sextus Varius (Meester)


Consuls have chosen not to replace Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987) as commander of the Spanish Revolts

Who will command the our legions against the Germanic Migrations?
2)Marco Flavius Cato Minor (Witch-Doctor) [Populares]

Who will command the the Civil War?
2)Galerius Nipius ( Death1816) [Populares]


Who will command the the Jugurthine War?
1)Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) [Populares]


Levying Forces
1)13 legions 2 fleets

Force Deployments
1)+Spanish Revolts: Legio X Fulminata, Legio VII Aquila, Legio II Lupus, 2 legions , 2 fleets
+Jugurthine War Legio III Victrix, 4 Legions, 2 fleets
+Germanic Migrations: Legio I Ex Nihilo, 1 legion
+Civil War: 5 fleets, 2 legions
+All new fleets will be sent to civil war
+All new legions will be split equally between the wars, with uneven splits in favor of civil war and jugurthine war



Trial of Gaius Marcus Africanus
2)Gulity

Mining Concession (3 Talents) - winner may reject and it will return to next years consul
Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.) +20 votes
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16.09.2016 - 19:57
Dictator Vote
1) Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Consul Vote
1) Gnaeus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu) & Cassius Caelius (Safari)

Censor Vote
2)Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.)

Praetor Vote
2)Galerius Nipius ( Death1816)

Pontifex Maximus
1)Sextus Varius (Meester)


Consuls have chosen not to replace Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987) as commander of the Spanish Revolts

Who will command the our legions against the Germanic Migrations?
2)Marco Flavius Cato Minor (Witch-Doctor) [Populares]

Who will command the the Civil War?
2)Galerius Nipius ( Death1816) [Populares]


Who will command the the Jugurthine War?
1)Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) [Populares]


Levying Forces
1)13 legions 2 fleets

Force Deployments
1)+Spanish Revolts: Legio X Fulminata, Legio VII Aquila, Legio II Lupus, 2 legions , 2 fleets
+Jugurthine War Legio III Victrix, 4 Legions, 2 fleets
+Germanic Migrations: Legio I Ex Nihilo, 1 legion
+Civil War: 5 fleets, 2 legions
+All new fleets will be sent to civil war
+All new legions will be split equally between the wars, with uneven splits in favor of civil war and jugurthine war



Trial of Gaius Marcus Africanus
2)Gulity

Mining Concession (3 Talents) - winner may reject and it will return to next years consul
Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.) +20 votes
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16.09.2016 - 19:58
 JF.
Dictator Vote
1) Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Consul Vote
2) Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987) & Publius Numertorius (JF)


Censor Vote
1)Augustus Damasippus (Resting Lime)

Praetor Vote
2)Galerius Nipius ( Death1816)

Pontifex Maximus
1)Sextus Varius (Meester)

Who will command the our legions against the Germanic Migrations?
2)Marco Flavius Cato Minor (Witch-Doctor) [Populares]

Who will command the the Civil War?
3)Cassius Caelius (Safari) [Potestatem]

Who will command the the Jugurthine War?
2)Augustus Damasippus (Resting Lime) [Potestatem]

Levying Forces
1)13 legions 2 fleets

Force Deployments
1)

1)innocent

Mining Concession (3 Talents) - winner may reject and it will return to next years consul
Augustus Damasippus (Resting Lime)
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16.09.2016 - 19:59
Dictator Vote
1) Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Consul Vote
1) Gnaeus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu) & Cassius Caelius (Safari)

Censor Vote
2)Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.)

Praetor Vote
2)Galerius Nipius ( Death1816)

Pontifex Maximus
1)Sextus Varius (Meester)

Who will command the our legions against the Germanic Migrations?
2)Marco Flavius Cato Minor (Witch-Doctor) [Populares]

Who will command the the Civil War?
2)Galerius Nipius ( Death1816) [Populares]


Who will command the the Jugurthine War?
1)Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) [Populares]


Levying Forces
1)13 legions 2 fleets

Force Deployments
1)+Spanish Revolts: Legio X Fulminata, Legio VII Aquila, Legio II Lupus, 2 legions , 2 fleets
+Jugurthine War Legio III Victrix, 4 Legions, 2 fleets
+Germanic Migrations: Legio I Ex Nihilo, 1 legion
+Civil War: 5 fleets, 2 legions
+All new fleets will be sent to civil war
+All new legions will be split equally between the wars, with uneven splits in favor of civil war and jugurthine war

Trial of Gaius Marcus Africanus
2)Gulity

Mining Concession (3 Talents) - winner may reject and it will return to next years consul
Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.) +20 votes
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16.09.2016 - 20:07
Dictator Vote
1) Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Consul Vote
1) Gnaeus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu) & Cassius Caelius (Safari)

Censor Vote
2)Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.)

Praetor Vote
2)Galerius Nipius ( Death1816)

Pontifex Maximus
2) Nay

Who will command the our legions against the Germanic Migrations?
2)Marco Flavius Cato Minor (Witch-Doctor) [Populares]

Who will command the the Civil War?
2)Galerius Nipius (Death1816) [Populares]


Who will command the the Jugurthine War?
1)Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) [Populares]

Levying Forces
1)13 legions 2 fleets

Force Deployments
1)+Spanish Revolts: Legio X Fulminata, Legio VII Aquila, Legio II Lupus, 2 legions , 2 fleets
+Jugurthine War Legio III Victrix, 4 Legions, 2 fleets
+Germanic Migrations: Legio I Ex Nihilo, 1 legion
+Civil War: 5 fleets, 2 legions
+All new fleets will be sent to civil war
+All new legions will be split equally between the wars, with uneven splits in favor of civil war and jugurthine war

Trial of Gaius Marcus Africanus
2)Gulity

Mining Concession (3 Talents) - winner may reject and it will return to next years consul
Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.) +20 votes
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16.09.2016 - 20:33
Dictator Vote
1) Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Consul Vote
1) Gnaeus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu) & Cassius Caelius (Safari)

Censor Vote
1)Augustus Damasippus (Resting Lime)

Praetor Vote
2)Galerius Nipius ( Death1816)

Pontifex Maximus
1)Sextus Varius (Meester)

Who will command the our legions against the Germanic Migrations?
2)Marco Flavius Cato Minor (Witch-Doctor) [Populares]

Who will command the the Civil War?
3)Cassius Caelius (Safari) [Potestatem]

Who will command the the Jugurthine War?
2)Augustus Damasippus (Resting Lime) [Potestatem]

Levying Forces
1)13 legions 2 fleets

Force Deployments
1)+Spanish Revolts: Legio X Fulminata, Legio VII Aquila, Legio II Lupus, 2 legions , 2 fleets
+Jugurthine War Legio III Victrix, 4 Legions, 2 fleets
+Germanic Migrations: Legio I Ex Nihilo, 1 legion
+Civil War: 5 fleets, 2 legions
+All new fleets will be sent to civil war
+All new legions will be split equally between the wars, with uneven splits in favor of civil war and jugurthine war

Trial of Gaius Marcus Africanus
1) Innocent

Mining Concession (3 Talents) - winner may reject and it will return to next years consul
Augustus Damasippus (Resting Lime)
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16.09.2016 - 22:08
Dictator Vote
1) Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Consul Vote
2) Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987) & Publius Numertorius (JF)


Censor Vote
1)Augustus Damasippus (Resting Lime)

Praetor Vote
1)Tiberius Octavius (vale)

Pontifex Maximus
1)Sextus Varius (Meester)

Who will command the our legions against the Germanic Migrations?
2)Marco Flavius Cato Minor (Witch-Doctor) [Populares]

Who will command the the Civil War?
3)Cassius Caelius (Safari) [Potestatem]

Who will command the the Jugurthine War?
2)Augustus Damasippus (Resting Lime) [Potestatem]

Levying Forces
1)13 legions 2 fleets

Force Deployments
1)

1)innocent

Mining Concession (3 Talents) - winner may reject and it will return to next years consul
Augustus Damasippus (Resting Lime)
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16.09.2016 - 22:12
"My fellow Senator, the charges brought against me are a farce. This is the message I received from the faction attempting to subvert power from the will of the people:




While I was out of Rome defeating Carthage (a task their own faction could not do), murderous felons committed an act of barbery by assassinating a fellow senator. I do not know who did such an act, nor will I accuse someone of it. As you can see in the message, they do not want the killer, only a scapegoat. This is not about seeking justice, but rather subverting the rule of law and order. With another senator murdered do to these tenacious rumours, rebel armies a narrow sea away, and barbarians at our gates, should we really be wasting time prosecuting an innocent individual for a crime he did not commit? I can only think of the great Greek Philosopher Socrates, forced to kill himself by a farce trial such as this. Are we not better than this? Are we not Romans?"
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16.09.2016 - 22:26
 Witch-Doctor (Mod)
Dictator Vote
1) Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Consul Vote
1) Gnaeus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu) & Cassius Caelius (Safari)

Censor Vote
2)Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.)

Praetor Vote
2)Galerius Nipius ( Death1816)

Pontifex Maximus
1)Sextus Varius (Meester)


Consuls have chosen not to replace Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987) as commander of the Spanish Revolts

Who will command the our legions against the Germanic Migrations?
2)Marco Flavius Cato Minor (Witch-Doctor) [Populares]

Who will command the the Civil War?
2)Galerius Nipius ( Death1816) [Populares]


Who will command the the Jugurthine War?
1)Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) [Populares]


Levying Forces
1)13 legions 2 fleets

Force Deployments
1)+Spanish Revolts: Legio X Fulminata, Legio VII Aquila, Legio II Lupus, 2 legions , 2 fleets
+Jugurthine War Legio III Victrix, 4 Legions, 2 fleets
+Germanic Migrations: Legio I Ex Nihilo, 1 legion
+Civil War: 5 fleets, 2 legions
+All new fleets will be sent to civil war
+All new legions will be split equally between the wars, with uneven splits in favor of civil war and jugurthine war



Trial of Gaius Marcus Africanus
2)Gulity

Mining Concession (3 Talents) - winner may reject and it will return to next years consul
Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.) +20 votes
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16.09.2016 - 23:32
Some one is going to end up in the chopping block
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