29.06.2015 - 18:28
you what now? how does 500 billion public debt sound? How does 2,5 trillion external debt sound? Since 2007 you managed to add 200 billion to your public debt and almost doubled your percentage of public debt per gdp. How is that no debt? And how is that our fault? Maybe you need to pay taxes yourself and cut public spending. Also looking at the external debt graphs and then saying Greece is the reason all Europeans are economizing now is ridiculously absurd, ignorant and plain stupid. Moreso, the supposed money European taxpayers pay for Greece, are going to German and French banks and not to Greece. Certainly not to Greeks, as they recieved only 10 % of all those money and yet we pay 10 fucking billions EVERY FUCKING YEAR TO POOR GOOD HELPFULL EUROPE FOR INTEREST.Whats more interesting is that Eurogroup, imf and Merkel have control of Greece's finances since 2009, so i dont know , maybe fucking blame them? They took control of the wheel. But no we ve been following Eurogroups program for 5 years now, we abide by every single subhuman and austerity measure and the program still failed. But offcourse its our fault, got it. As i have said, (you and other ignorant faggots), go check on Miley Cyrus new boyfriend and Kim Cardashian tips for huge butt and stay out of serious matters you know shit about.
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29.06.2015 - 18:31
You might have skipped a few first sentences khal of that wiki page... where it says "use caution" when refrencing this list si nce it shows total debt of government plus citizens and it also says some countries "debt" is actually credit they gave. There is also a difference between someone being solvent being able to pay the debts interest and rate and does who are close to bankrupcy. But im just pointing out to wiki page...
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29.06.2015 - 18:34
not the only page ive been to. All lists have the same results more or less, from other sites aswell. Are you debating the numbers? Do you think they are wrong? Its not that hard to find a countries debt you know. lol goblin.. As for your second point i agree, but i fail to see how it connects to the discussion in this thread.
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29.06.2015 - 18:42
Maybe learn how to construct a sentence before you attempt to play with words on me. How it has TWICE the ammount of debt IF THE AMMOUNT OF DEBT IS HALF. IT HAS DOUBLE PERCENTAGE OF DEBT/GDP AND NOT AMMOUNT. It is the only "relevant" way to measure debt, IF you are interested in the capabilities of said country to repay its debt, yes i agree. But again not the topic at hand.
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29.06.2015 - 18:56
That is correct and I never denied that and neither did anybody else here. I responded to specific "false" statements and accusations with specific arguments, to clear the misinformation that seemed to be in the air. p.s. Greece still doesnt owe more to Eu than Netherlands. That is just not true. Doesnt matter if Greece cant pay its debts and NL can, the amount is still lower and so it still owes less.
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30.06.2015 - 02:21
you dont deserve to be named greek you juse fo watch TV and believe anything they say then thunk you are informed i dont even think you are worth of an answer honestlty so im not going to give you one.Just tell merkel to give us the money she owns us from her granpas war.
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30.06.2015 - 02:26
I like how everyone has an opinion about greece withiut even living in greece and getting informed my goverment controlled media who here and 2 days insist in voting yes no i wont fuck this shit europe we dont have to eat fuck EE you have destroyed Greece,Greeks work most that any other nation in EE,I dont blame nations that are part of EE,I blame EE.Anyway i stop here its a long story to explain and i dont intend to.
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30.06.2015 - 10:19
I am debating the way you interpreted does numbers, didn't read the explanations above them or put an effort to educate your self about the meanings of the terms such as... first of all DEBT, then macro, micro economy, being solvent or insolvent, deficit, GDP, investments etc. etc. etc. What is debt Khal?... ...you guys think of debt as being broke and not able to return the money to someone - Debt just means you owe something to someone - Debt doesn't give an answer about are you solvent (capable of meeting your financial obligations... meaning paying interest and credit rates) - Debt does not equal to a loan <-------- it can mean bonds you issued, deposits on bank accounts in your country etc. This is why countries like Luxembourg and Switzerland scored high on your list... and if you think Lux or Switz are in financial troubles then ...fucking lol Khal.
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30.06.2015 - 13:11
...what is this crazy battle of rants? A couple years on AtWar and I'm starting to doubt the ability of the average person to remain civil under stress. You folks do not have to curse at your opponents in incoherent paragraphs. To say nothing is probably better than posting such a rant.
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30.06.2015 - 13:14
im not even gonna... As i said go comment on Miley Cyrus videos, you have nothing to contribute to this conversation except making a fool of yourself as usual. I wonder why you still bother loging in on atwar. Anyway, in response to your post, underneath a wall of abhominem, lots of fallacies and your racist, stereotypical opinions, obviously stemming from a deeply uneducated mind, theres nothing of substance here and not a single even decent argument. I dont claim to be an expert on anything, i just try to make sure that i have done my research before i open my mouth and post something, something i really wish you start doing, because it is going to help you immensly in your real life aswell. Doesnt matter if you live in NL and you are rich, its time to mature and stop talking like a 5 year old girl. Anyway, my points all stand, you failed to properly adress even one, except throwing a vomit of unsubstanciated claims and accusations and trying to make all this a competition between countries, when i simply corrected your shamefull ignorance.
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30.06.2015 - 13:21
and yet im here defending the one thing that came out of your stupid mouth and it wasnt bullshit. And in return i get all the heat from these guys cause you probably made them all angry with your idiotic comments. If you could prove your accusations with i dont know creating an argument maybe, do it. Otherwise shut it and stop your idiotic patriotic bullshit about Greece too. Nobody wants to hear it and in the end you gonna make every one flame Greece and i will have to fight and its all gonna be because you are a clown and a joke. Just stop posting about Greece and if possible change your avatar too.
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30.06.2015 - 13:40
i dont have time for your emotional drivel, i am a busy person and im tired. This is the last time i am responding to you. For the last time, show me where i am wrong. Prove it to me and i will shut up and apologise to you. If you cant, stop talking to me and start seeing a therapist.
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30.06.2015 - 13:50
This is on google. If you khal google a liar and that google is working with me and is against you, then idk anymore khal. As it is in dutch, idk if you can see the countries, the green one is NL the red one is Greece Stop being so lame.. making problems out of nothing. I only commented back to you because you started talking shit. Didn't even talk to you in the first place but towards the other greek.
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30.06.2015 - 13:56
You can rant, rage and insult me all you want... fact remains you don't know shit about economics and can't read statistical data. EDIT: oh btw. just because you have gone the extra mile to insult me... even tho i said nothing bad about Greece but merely pointed your claim was wrong.
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30.06.2015 - 14:20
Jesus fucking christ waffel. Are you doing this on purpose to piss me off? You know the graph you posted is EXACTLY THE SAME with the one Amok posted in page 5 and is the one that actually started all this freaking discussion? You didnt read a single thing written here, did you? Tell the truth.
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30.06.2015 - 14:50
I wonder how this turned out to be a flamingwar between NL and greece debts... I delete my comments, it is a waste of this beautifull thread where amok and ivan response more withing in a year! xD + legendairy bitchycomments
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30.06.2015 - 14:58
You are right. i know i was in the right, but i can see i was excessively agressive in my responses, deleted my goblin post aswell. its a touchy subject. apologies.
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30.06.2015 - 15:12
Get online i am gonna gif virtual hug
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30.06.2015 - 19:43
How from talking about atwar's potentials and stuff we end up with waffel and khal arguing.lol
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01.07.2015 - 01:27
Nationalism.
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01.07.2015 - 01:52
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01.07.2015 - 01:54
I laughed so hardly on this comment, my mother thought im high
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01.07.2015 - 01:56
Only sometimes.
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01.07.2015 - 03:11
Haha thats not nationalism, neither patriotism... those jerkd are greedy fuck8jg politicans whose only nation is money. Dont mix them with real patriots. Fucking fake patriots of politicans killed our country by robbing it, not a single nationalist or patriot
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01.07.2015 - 03:47
Only idiotic thing here is them end of story.
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01.07.2015 - 04:03
ill sent u cheap drugs from amsterdam
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01.07.2015 - 04:20
I appreciate the gesture. But i dont do drugs anymore, knowdays i get my "high" naturally, meaning from working out and having perverted sex
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01.07.2015 - 04:22
what are you talking about? i never insulted you..
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01.07.2015 - 04:27
dont forget the socks/panties :$
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Are you sure?