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Posted by Black Israelite, 11.02.2020 - 14:11
Red.Army was demoted today from his supporter position. This post isn't meant to argue against the demotion (which is against forum rules), but to explain why atWar could benefit from him being reinstated:

-All staff have done controversial things in their past. Demoting him for past behavior will make others question other staff's past behavior (believe me we have all done stupid things on atWar).
-He has done a fantastic job tutoring the Red.Army clan lowest ranking members to participate in clan wars. This can be productive for new users asking for help.
-Red.Army has matured over the years and now keeps his opinions to himself.
-Since he is a clan leader, he has developed exceptional organizational skills.
-If staff is to be judged retroactively for past comments/ actions, we would never be able improve atWar's game experience. The supporter position's tasks do not include being spotless clean from controversy, but to be effective in helping players with questions and enhance their gameplay.

What do you guys think? If you have specific examples against his reinstatement that happened recently, please reply so players can make a intelligent decision!
11.02.2020 - 17:39
He and his clan have harassed me on multiple occasions. They have used my trust and generosity against me. They have used the trust that I vest in people to gather my personal information, which they have used as club to silence me and obstruct my efforts to establish the greatest clan that has existed. He and his followers act in direction opposition of the ideals on which this community grows. They are narrow-minded, they are untrustworthy, and if Red.Army is incapable of being an officer in my clan, then why should he be capable of holding a position of power on this game?
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11.02.2020 - 17:49
Written by Tribune Aquila, 11.02.2020 at 17:39

He and his clan have harassed me on multiple occasions. They have used my trust and generosity against me. They have used the trust that I vest in people to gather my personal information, which they have used as club to silence me and obstruct my efforts to establish the greatest clan that has existed. He and his followers act in direction opposition of the ideals on which this community grows. They are narrow-minded, they are untrustworthy, and if Red.Army is incapable of being an officer in my clan, then why should he be capable of holding a position of power on this game?

because your clan is all alts who cares
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11.02.2020 - 17:49
No wonder Sacha muted you sean spicer
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11.02.2020 - 17:52
This is devolving into a personal argument, let's stick to the topic.
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11.02.2020 - 18:19
 Sascha (Mod)
Dude how many alts you got and btw nice upvoting yourself
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11.02.2020 - 18:36
So, let's clear things up.


Red Army was promoted due to an Interview I had one of the Supporters do (the name will be kept confidential on my end):

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Hey Alois. I spoke to him. So he seems to be very committed, fluent in English and committed to making videos once weekly or more, he also presents willingness and ability to quickly learn about link building. He claims that he has tons of spare time on his hands. He has displayed that he really cares about the game and wants to make a positive impact. I suggested to him and now suggest to you that we give him supporter status for 1 month as a trial period. If for whatever reason he neglects his duties or does not perform as expected, we will immediately demote him after the trial period ends. I did explain to him also that we need him for specific reasons only - not to sit and create new strategies that will likely never be implemented nor to do any SP/PC drops since we already have people doing that. I am happy to proceed with a 1-month trial if you and whoever is happy too.


Red Army was allowed onto the team for a month trial period, however he had to stop his anti-semitism (shown below), trolls, etc or be demoted. Essentially he had to get his crap together if he wanted to be on the team for good. As cause of this, he should have changed his clan rules which literally target people on AW by saying things like "- No Jews."

He, however, within a day received multiple complaints about his reputation and how he hasn't changed. Not only this, his temper has gotten to him. Something of which I don't take kindly on a team I lead. Anyways, Red Army still hadn't (and still hasnt) changed his rules or anything; which proves to me he obviously isnt for change. So in the end I ended up demoting him to Help Squad which is a separate team of lesser supporters I run as I knew Red Army should be able to be re-promoted after this has left the scene. However, Red Army came back to me saying that I'm talking BS about him when I literally have been saying the same thing to anyone who asks why he was demoted: He was anti-semitic, had troll-like behavior, and ultimately his reputation ruined him. This then turned into a fight between Red Army and I.


In the end, I am still allowing Red Army onto the Help Squad to help out with what he was originally put here to do, but until he proves to me otherwise about his ways, he will not be a supporter. His dream is to be a moderator however I just don't see how he could ever be one when he goes around saying "as Mod I'm going to Make AW Great Again" and nothing to go along with that. Until he proves his worth to the team, nothing will be happening. He's lucky we even considered him to be on the team right away.




As for this "Alois declares war on Red Army" etc stupidity this is due to a meta-game thing that most everyone knows I deal with in the background of AW that is completely separate from my job as Supporter; even Dave knows this and is always welcomed to hop on any of my accounts to investigate me. This is all fun and games. Not to mention it brings a different amount of content to AW that over 200 players actually enjoy.


Now, for the Anti-Semitism evidence (which is being added onto as I find more screenshots)









P.S.:

The way Red Army has acted today he would have been let go by literally anyone else in the administration, including Dave. You should consider yourself lucky. He has managed to break most of our Code of Conduct of which I should have completely let him go for. Also, for those of you who want him as Supporter; I will let you know being a supporter you should be neutral in most things. Red Army literally targeted certain kinds of humans.
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11.02.2020 - 18:38
King Acid-us i,m sure u told alois to demote red army from supporter.
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●AloisToday at 6:05 PM
His reputation ruined it for him. I had to demote.
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11.02.2020 - 18:40
ABUSE OF POWER no wonder amok demoted alios from mod
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11.02.2020 - 18:41
Written by E.KRUGER, 11.02.2020 at 18:38

King Acid-us i,m sure u told alois to demote red army from supporter.
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●AloisToday at 6:05 PM
His reputation ruined it for him. I had to demote.


He didn't, in fact I mailed Dave myself and had him demote Red Army.
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11.02.2020 - 18:41
Written by Tribune Aquila, 11.02.2020 at 17:39

He and his clan have harassed me on multiple occasions. They have used my trust and generosity against me. They have used the trust that I vest in people to gather my personal information, which they have used as club to silence me and obstruct my efforts to establish the greatest clan that has existed. He and his followers act in direction opposition of the ideals on which this community grows. They are narrow-minded, they are untrustworthy, and if Red.Army is incapable of being an officer in my clan, then why should he be capable of holding a position of power on this game?


Sean Spicer, Your entire clan is your alts.. And your just salty cause you got rekted by him
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11.02.2020 - 18:42
Written by Alois, 11.02.2020 at 18:36

So, let's clear things up.


Red Army was promoted due to an Interview I had one of the Supporters do (the name will be kept confidential on my end):

Quote:
Hey Alois. I spoke to him. So he seems to be very committed, fluent in English and committed to making videos once weekly or more, he also presents willingness and ability to quickly learn about link building. He claims that he has tons of spare time on his hands. He has displayed that he really cares about the game and wants to make a positive impact. I suggested to him and now suggest to you that we give him supporter status for 1 month as a trial period. If for whatever reason he neglects his duties or does not perform as expected, we will immediately demote him after the trial period ends. I did explain to him also that we need him for specific reasons only - not to sit and create new strategies that will likely never be implemented nor to do any SP/PC drops since we already have people doing that. I am happy to proceed with a 1-month trial if you and whoever is happy too.


Red Army was allowed onto the team for a month trial period, however he had to stop his anti-semitism (shown below), trolls, etc or be demoted. Essentially he had to get his crap together if he wanted to be on the team for good. As cause of this, he should have changed his clan rules which literally target people on AW by saying things like "- No Jews."

He, however, within a day received multiple complaints about his reputation and how he hasn't changed. Not only this, his temper has gotten to him. Something of which I don't take kindly on a team I lead. Anyways, Red Army still hadn't (and still hasnt) changed his rules or anything; which proves to me he obviously isnt for change. So in the end I ended up demoting him to Help Squad which is a separate team of lesser supporters I run as I knew Red Army should be able to be re-promoted after this has left the scene. However, Red Army came back to me saying that I'm talking BS about him when I literally have been saying the same thing to anyone who asks why he was demoted: He was anti-semitic, had troll-like behavior, and ultimately his reputation ruined him. This then turned into a fight between Red Army and I.


In the end, I am still allowing Red Army onto the Help Squad to help out with what he was originally put here to do, but until he proves to me otherwise about his ways, he will not be a supporter. His dream is to be a moderator however I just don't see how he could ever be one when he goes around saying "as Mod I'm going to Make AW Great Again" and nothing to go along with that. Until he proves his worth to the team, nothing will be happening. He's lucky we even considered him to be on the team right away.




As for this "Alois declares war on Red Army" etc stupidity this is due to a meta-game thing that most everyone knows I deal with in the background of AW that is completely separate from my job as Supporter; even Dave knows this and is always welcomed to hop on any of my accounts to investigate me. This is all fun and games. Not to mention it brings a different amount of content to AW that over 200 players actually enjoy.


Now, for the Anti-Semitism evidence (which is being added onto as I find more screenshots)









P.S.:

The way Red Army has acted today he would have been let go by literally anyone else in the administration, including Dave. You should consider yourself lucky. He has managed to break most of our Code of Conduct of which I should have completely let him go for.

should have taken more time to think about it
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11.02.2020 - 18:44
I have screen shots as well until i was kicked from the imperial union discord sever. You guys were fooling around and it escalated out of control and red army was getting cyber bullied by your clan mates he wanted a apology and those clan mates were spouse to get disciplined then it escalated out of control from thier. How about you screen shot the whole conversation next time instead of just two posting two things red army said that does not look like the whole conversation to me. btw we have alot more evidence i,m not the only one sometimes i feel like people instigate and add fuel to the fire when the story is not straight or has enough evidence
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11.02.2020 - 18:44
Written by Echoo, 11.02.2020 at 18:42

Written by Alois, 11.02.2020 at 18:36

So, let's clear things up.



should have taken more time to think about it


I thought about it; I even had a discussion with Dave and other Supporters about it; that's how connected the team is. He was demoted for what I stated he was demoted for without question, take it or leave it.
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11.02.2020 - 18:45
 Dave (Admin)
Alois has posted the truth of the matter. You've all had your say now, I'm locking the thread.
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