There's been a lot of talk about SP farming and maps/scenarios that encourage it. About SP being devalued because of certain scenarios (for example, UN games). Well, in collaboration with Moderators, we have devised a system to balance SP earning. Both maps and scenarios now have SP multipliers that can be set by Moderators to 0% - 150%. But default, currently, all maps and scenarios are set to 100%.

If both map and scenario have multipliers, they are applied separately - for example, if both have SP multiplier of 150%, the total for the game will be 225% (150*150/100). If the map multiplier is 25% and the scenario multiplier is 150%, the total will be 37.5% (25*150/100). If one of them is 0%, the total will always be 0% (no SP earning at all).

The multiplier is displayed in individual map and scenario details, as well as in game info in the lobby and in the SP pool tab in the game.

We hope you understand the reasoning behind this addition. Please be patient with (or try to assist) Moderators in their hard task of balancing maps and scenarios for SP earning.

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18.10.2014 - 13:04
Great work! A potential solution to the RP crisis.
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18.10.2014 - 13:13

This is great news. Thank you based mods.
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18.10.2014 - 13:14
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18.10.2014 - 13:25
Greatest update in along time!!!! Well done
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18.10.2014 - 14:05
For some reason all ancient games are now 75% multiplyer (in red) and we get 0 SP no matter how much we play, and ancient has never been am SP farming or RP map/game
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18.10.2014 - 14:11
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Written by Captain Rider, 18.10.2014 at 14:05

For some reason all ancient games are now 75% multiplyer (in red) and we get 0 SP no matter how much we play, and ancient has never been am SP farming or RP map/game

You mean avatar's ancient world right? I suppose it is a bug, you shouldn't be getting 0 SP.

edit: You are correct. I've set Ancient World back to 100% SP, but I see that the new feature isn't working as intended.
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18.10.2014 - 14:34
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Admins are lazy they said, admins don't care about the game they said.

Also get more hip admins RP is the new World 50k (it litteraly is except bad borders and SO MUCH BOOSTING)

Mods when rp sp nerfed/removed.
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18.10.2014 - 14:56
 Htin
Yes! GG rp
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18.10.2014 - 15:37
This is great! so glad this change was made! thank you so much admins and mods for the effort u put in. 1 request:

all my maps should be 150% multiply
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18.10.2014 - 15:45
Mfw, I just spent 3 hours of my life rogueing in RP for nothing. Fml.
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18.10.2014 - 17:33
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19.10.2014 - 00:10
No please remove this feature or adjust it. And please no boost SP more than 100% Thanks.

http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=16087
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19.10.2014 - 02:17
Instead of doing it this way you should have asked the scenarios to be modified. You could have just added more restrictions on making the scenarios only to prevent it from being farming maps. Like for example no more land units with more than 10 attack and such.

This change I feel will have more negative consequences and people would get disgruntled by it. In this game there is nothing stopping anyone from making map they like with units they like. This change takes it in wrong direction.
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19.10.2014 - 02:40
I enjoyed playing RP because I want to become a UN Diplomat. The whole reason I joined this site was because I liked RP. I was never good at them and I didn't even know you could farm from them.

But now no one will play them.

I bought lifetime premium because I enjoyed RP so much and wanted to support an awesome site, and now I want that money back.
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19.10.2014 - 06:49
 Sascha (Mod)
Why the hell is ancient now 75% ? OMG OMG

it is a fair and balanced map ..... !!!!
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19.10.2014 - 07:32
Written by Forensic_Dragon, 19.10.2014 at 02:40

I enjoyed playing RP because I want to become a UN Diplomat. The whole reason I joined this site was because I liked RP. I was never good at them and I didn't even know you could farm from them.

But now no one will play them.

I bought lifetime premium because I enjoyed RP so much and wanted to support an awesome site, and now I want that money back.

Sorry, but you didn't buy the right to have easy SP. You can still enjoy very much playing RP, just you won't be over-compensated with SP like you were in the past. Please remember that the SP boost of RP/WG50k/UN had a price that other players were paying. Please just adjust to the new (old) reality.
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19.10.2014 - 07:36
Cool job Caulepra gives 150%sp to his friend talos map ,but gives just 75% to ancient world camon my map is not RP sp farm

he abuse his mod power to support his friend maps lolololol
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19.10.2014 - 08:48
Written by Forensic_Dragon, 19.10.2014 at 02:40

I enjoyed playing RP because I want to become a UN Diplomat. The whole reason I joined this site was because I liked RP. I was never good at them and I didn't even know you could farm from them.

But now no one will play them.

I bought lifetime premium because I enjoyed RP so much and wanted to support an awesome site, and now I want that money back.


If you play RP simply because you like the map so much, why do you care so much about the SP reduction then?The map hasnt changed, at all.
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19.10.2014 - 08:53
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Maybe this is just another way of promoting maps? Is good in some senses that different maps may be a able to get attention in this way.

And about your ancient world, should have read back


You mean avatar's ancient world right? I suppose it is a bug, you shouldn't be getting 0 SP.

edit: You are correct. I've set Ancient World back to 100% SP, but I see that the new feature isn't working as intended.
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19.10.2014 - 10:34
Written by avatar, 19.10.2014 at 07:36

Cool job Caulepra gives 150%sp to his friend talos map ,but gives just 75% to ancient world camon my map is not RP sp farm

he abuse his mod power to support his friend maps lolololol


It have started.....

IVAN PLEASE REMOVE THIS FUNTION.

@Bonker if it is an error why it has not be fixed yet?

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19.10.2014 - 12:22
 Ivan (Admin)
Written by clovis1122, 19.10.2014 at 10:34

Written by avatar, 19.10.2014 at 07:36

Cool job Caulepra gives 150%sp to his friend talos map ,but gives just 75% to ancient world camon my map is not RP sp farm

he abuse his mod power to support his friend maps lolololol


It have started.....

IVAN PLEASE REMOVE THIS FUNTION.

@Bonker if it is an error why it has not be fixed yet?



It has been fixed yesterday. Just checked - it works fine.
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19.10.2014 - 12:34
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Written by Forensic_Dragon, 19.10.2014 at 02:40

I enjoyed playing RP because I want to become a UN Diplomat. The whole reason I joined this site was because I liked RP. I was never good at them and I didn't even know you could farm from them.

But now no one will play them.

I bought lifetime premium because I enjoyed RP so much and wanted to support an awesome site, and now I want that money back.

you can still play it. the sp shouldn't change te game quality but put it back to the average amount of sp earn as other map
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19.10.2014 - 12:35
 Htin
Written by Sascha, 19.10.2014 at 06:49

Why the hell is ancient now 75% ? OMG OMG

it is a fair and balanced map ..... !!!!

best strategy in ancient is IF
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19.10.2014 - 12:51
Written by Ivan, 19.10.2014 at 12:22

It has been fixed yesterday. Just checked - it works fine.


Am I bugged? because I reset page many times and now I still see it at 75%

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19.10.2014 - 13:47
RP players R.I.P :3
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19.10.2014 - 16:52
Ancient is sp farm map, deal with it. Exept maybe Epic Ancient.
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19.10.2014 - 17:41
Written by avatar, 19.10.2014 at 07:42




Please return ancient back to 100%
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19.10.2014 - 17:41
Ancient has always been a fair and balanced map
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19.10.2014 - 18:28
Written by Captain Rider, 19.10.2014 at 17:41

Ancient has always been a fair and balanced map

Is not about balance or fairness, is about the quantity of SP compared to the default map.
Acient World gives more sp than default map, so it needed a small nerf.
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20.10.2014 - 00:04
Written by Ivan, 19.10.2014 at 12:22



Ivan why are maps like Greek World and Middle Earth boosted, i stated this in a previous thread on general forums, but maps shouldnt be boosted, the map maker made the map and intended it to bring in that amount of SP, if the map makers thinks its too low he should go into his map and change the stuff to make it worth more sp, but maps dont need more SP even if they generate less than others, its the style of how some like, however this doesnt apply to maps like RP, i still think they should have SP Multipliers that are lower.
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20.10.2014 - 00:58
Written by Quantum027, 20.10.2014 at 00:04

Written by Ivan, 19.10.2014 at 12:22



Ivan why are maps like Greek World and Middle Earth boosted, i stated this in a previous thread on general forums, but maps shouldnt be boosted, the map maker made the map and intended it to bring in that amount of SP, if the map makers thinks its too low he should go into his map and change the stuff to make it worth more sp, but maps dont need more SP even if they generate less than others, its the style of how some like, however this doesnt apply to maps like RP, i still think they should have SP Multipliers that are lower.

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20.10.2014 - 01:52
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Written by Forensic_Dragon, 19.10.2014 at 02:40

I enjoyed playing RP because I want to become a UN Diplomat. The whole reason I joined this site was because I liked RP. I was never good at them and I didn't even know you could farm from them.

But now no one will play them.

I bought lifetime premium because I enjoyed RP so much and wanted to support an awesome site, and now I want that money back.
What? I thought people were still playing them, if what you say is the truth then it is true most players play for the SP.
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20.10.2014 - 05:02
 Ivan (Admin)
Written by Quantum027, 20.10.2014 at 00:04

Written by Ivan, 19.10.2014 at 12:22



Ivan why are maps like Greek World and Middle Earth boosted, i stated this in a previous thread on general forums, but maps shouldnt be boosted, the map maker made the map and intended it to bring in that amount of SP, if the map makers thinks its too low he should go into his map and change the stuff to make it worth more sp, but maps dont need more SP even if they generate less than others, its the style of how some like, however this doesnt apply to maps like RP, i still think they should have SP Multipliers that are lower.

Wow, that was one very long sentence... And no, I don't think map makers are entitled to having absolute control over how much SP their map generates. That's just an invitation to farm shitty maps and ignore good ones.
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20.10.2014 - 08:48
Written by Ivan, 20.10.2014 at 05:02

Wow, that was one very long sentence... And no, I don't think map makers are entitled to having absolute control over how much SP their map generates. That's just an invitation to farm shitty maps and ignore good ones.


Giving full control to Mods is not reasonable as well. There should be an agreement between Mods and the MapMarker, or at least, warn the MapMarker with reasonable time before his map get SP nerfed.
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20.10.2014 - 08:55
Written by clovis1122, 20.10.2014 at 08:48

Written by Ivan, 20.10.2014 at 05:02

Wow, that was one very long sentence... And no, I don't think map makers are entitled to having absolute control over how much SP their map generates. That's just an invitation to farm shitty maps and ignore good ones.


Giving full control to Mods is not reasonable as well. There should be an agreement between Mods and the MapMarker, or at least, warn the MapMarker with reasonable time before his map get SP nerfed.


Why?
Explain how is giving full control to mods bad
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20.10.2014 - 09:08
Written by Tundy, 20.10.2014 at 08:55

Written by clovis1122, 20.10.2014 at 08:48

Written by Ivan, 20.10.2014 at 05:02

Wow, that was one very long sentence... And no, I don't think map makers are entitled to having absolute control over how much SP their map generates. That's just an invitation to farm shitty maps and ignore good ones.


Giving full control to Mods is not reasonable as well. There should be an agreement between Mods and the MapMarker, or at least, warn the MapMarker with reasonable time before his map get SP nerfed.


Why?
Explain how is giving full control to mods bad


If a mod is nerfing the revenue of a map, then he/she must have a reason for that. So the map maker can easily ask a mod why it got nerfed and according to that the map maker can update the map so that the map gets 100% again.
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20.10.2014 - 09:10
Written by Safari, 20.10.2014 at 09:08


If a mod is nerfing the revenue of a map, then he/she must have a reason for that. So the map maker can easily ask a mod why it got nerfed and according to that the map maker can update the map so that the map gets 100% again.


And that could happen between "Nice" Mods. but the truth is:

" I dont need to give you explaination"
" I already told you it"
" *indifferent to user's message* "
" No it wont charge. Stop pming me"
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20.10.2014 - 09:14
Written by Safari, 20.10.2014 at 09:08

Written by Tundy, 20.10.2014 at 08:55

Written by clovis1122, 20.10.2014 at 08:48

Written by Ivan, 20.10.2014 at 05:02

Wow, that was one very long sentence... And no, I don't think map makers are entitled to having absolute control over how much SP their map generates. That's just an invitation to farm shitty maps and ignore good ones.


Giving full control to Mods is not reasonable as well. There should be an agreement between Mods and the MapMarker, or at least, warn the MapMarker with reasonable time before his map get SP nerfed.


Why?
Explain how is giving full control to mods bad


If a mod is nerfing the revenue of a map, then he/she must have a reason for that. So the map maker can easily ask a mod why it got nerfed and according to that the map maker can update the map so that the map gets 100% again.


I didn't agree to get banned, and i wasn't notified early when the decision was made.
Map makers should be guilty until proven innocent, otherwise standardizing the maps will take too much time.

Imagine how long it would have taken for the nerf on RP to take place, imagine 1 month of RPrs bitching about it in forum.
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20.10.2014 - 09:17
Written by clovis1122, 20.10.2014 at 09:10

Written by Safari, 20.10.2014 at 09:08


If a mod is nerfing the revenue of a map, then he/she must have a reason for that. So the map maker can easily ask a mod why it got nerfed and according to that the map maker can update the map so that the map gets 100% again.


And that could happen between "Nice" Mods. but the truth is:

" I dont need to give you explaination" - Excuse will rise.


Stop talking, safari was defending your idea that mods should notify map makers in advance. Now you blow it out of proportion and accused mods of corruption.

Good job clovis.
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20.10.2014 - 09:29
Written by Ivan, 19.10.2014 at 12:22

Written by clovis1122, 19.10.2014 at 10:34

Written by avatar, 19.10.2014 at 07:36

Cool job Caulepra gives 150%sp to his friend talos map ,but gives just 75% to ancient world camon my map is not RP sp farm

he abuse his mod power to support his friend maps lolololol


It have started.....

IVAN PLEASE REMOVE THIS FUNTION.

@Bonker if it is an error why it has not be fixed yet?



It has been fixed yesterday. Just checked - it works fine.

i support to remove this
bla this map is not sp farming............
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20.10.2014 - 10:26
Hi This is my first post here , and excuse me on my English wich is not perfect. I must say this, first of all i dont play any map for SP but for FUN, second is about that SP farming wich you all say is in RP maps. If it is mostly in RP map what should prevent someone to call his frined and make privat map and play all day for SP not to kill . That is bigger problem for SP farming then RP maps. If someone make map lock it and call his friend and produce units all day destroy units to eachother he will farm more SP then in RP so this is no solution. And of topic: Mod"s and Admins should work more on baning ppl who insult on Ethnic , Religion, or Skin Color base and its a lot of them overhere. THX and This should not be problem , if all play RP for Fun not for SP like i do.
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20.10.2014 - 11:55
Written by Ivan, 20.10.2014 at 05:02

Written by Quantum027, 20.10.2014 at 00:04

Written by Ivan, 19.10.2014 at 12:22



Ivan why are maps like Greek World and Middle Earth boosted, i stated this in a previous thread on general forums, but maps shouldnt be boosted, the map maker made the map and intended it to bring in that amount of SP, if the map makers thinks its too low he should go into his map and change the stuff to make it worth more sp, but maps dont need more SP even if they generate less than others, its the style of how some like, however this doesnt apply to maps like RP, i still think they should have SP Multipliers that are lower.

Wow, that was one very long sentence... And no, I don't think map makers are entitled to having absolute control over how much SP their map generates. That's just an invitation to farm shitty maps and ignore good ones.

but used in the reverse, im not condoning maps for the purpose of farming SP, but if a map generates a lower amount of SP it shouldnt be changed by mods to earn more SP, the map maker does have the right to decide that his maps dont need to give 1000s of SP per game.
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20.10.2014 - 12:15
Written by Safari, 20.10.2014 at 09:08

Written by Tundy, 20.10.2014 at 08:55

Written by clovis1122, 20.10.2014 at 08:48

Written by Ivan, 20.10.2014 at 05:02

Wow, that was one very long sentence... And no, I don't think map makers are entitled to having absolute control over how much SP their map generates. That's just an invitation to farm shitty maps and ignore good ones.


Giving full control to Mods is not reasonable as well. There should be an agreement between Mods and the MapMarker, or at least, warn the MapMarker with reasonable time before his map get SP nerfed.


Why?
Explain how is giving full control to mods bad


If a mod is nerfing the revenue of a map, then he/she must have a reason for that. So the map maker can easily ask a mod why it got nerfed and according to that the map maker can update the map so that the map gets 100% again.

We finally knew that their is a" she" in the mods team!!! Who is she plz tell!!
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20.10.2014 - 12:17
Written by Ivan, 20.10.2014 at 05:02

Written by Quantum027, 20.10.2014 at 00:04

Written by Ivan, 19.10.2014 at 12:22



Ivan why are maps like Greek World and Middle Earth boosted, i stated this in a previous thread on general forums, but maps shouldnt be boosted, the map maker made the map and intended it to bring in that amount of SP, if the map makers thinks its too low he should go into his map and change the stuff to make it worth more sp, but maps dont need more SP even if they generate less than others, its the style of how some like, however this doesnt apply to maps like RP, i still think they should have SP Multipliers that are lower.

Wow, that was one very long sentence... And no, I don't think map makers are entitled to having absolute control over how much SP their map generates. That's just an invitation to farm shitty maps and ignore good ones.

In ivan we trust!! :3 ^_^ i always liked you more than your brother he is lazy you are not <3
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20.10.2014 - 12:22
Written by YazanTheSexy, 20.10.2014 at 12:15

Written by Safari, 20.10.2014 at 09:08

Written by Tundy, 20.10.2014 at 08:55

Written by clovis1122, 20.10.2014 at 08:48

Written by Ivan, 20.10.2014 at 05:02

Wow, that was one very long sentence... And no, I don't think map makers are entitled to having absolute control over how much SP their map generates. That's just an invitation to farm shitty maps and ignore good ones.


Giving full control to Mods is not reasonable as well. There should be an agreement between Mods and the MapMarker, or at least, warn the MapMarker with reasonable time before his map get SP nerfed.


Why?
Explain how is giving full control to mods bad


If a mod is nerfing the revenue of a map, then he/she must have a reason for that. So the map maker can easily ask a mod why it got nerfed and according to that the map maker can update the map so that the map gets 100% again.

We finally knew that their is a" she" in the mods team!!! Who is she plz tell!!


How does this really matter? Nothing good comes from revealing "her" identity.
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20.10.2014 - 14:03
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Written by Tundy, 20.10.2014 at 12:22

Written by YazanTheSexy, 20.10.2014 at 12:15

Written by Safari, 20.10.2014 at 09:08

Written by Tundy, 20.10.2014 at 08:55

Written by clovis1122, 20.10.2014 at 08:48

Written by Ivan, 20.10.2014 at 05:02

Wow, that was one very long sentence... And no, I don't think map makers are entitled to having absolute control over how much SP their map generates. That's just an invitation to farm shitty maps and ignore good ones.


Giving full control to Mods is not reasonable as well. There should be an agreement between Mods and the MapMarker, or at least, warn the MapMarker with reasonable time before his map get SP nerfed.


Why?
Explain how is giving full control to mods bad


If a mod is nerfing the revenue of a map, then he/she must have a reason for that. So the map maker can easily ask a mod why it got nerfed and according to that the map maker can update the map so that the map gets 100% again.

We finally knew that their is a" she" in the mods team!!! Who is she plz tell!!


How does this really matter? Nothing good comes from revealing "her" identity.
Yes, yes it does ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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20.10.2014 - 14:31
 Ivan (Admin)
Written by Quantum027, 20.10.2014 at 11:55

but used in the reverse, im not condoning maps for the purpose of farming SP, but if a map generates a lower amount of SP it shouldnt be changed by mods to earn more SP, the map maker does have the right to decide that his maps dont need to give 1000s of SP per game.

I'm sure it would be solved as easily as a creator of the map/scenario writing a short message to one of the mods, asking to reset the multiplier back to 100% (if they put more than 100%). Though I don't expect that would happen often.
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20.10.2014 - 20:47
Ok, now time for the Pros and Cons.

1. Mods act, then MapMarker can retaliate:

Pros:

•) Easy and Fast action for the maps to be nerfed. This can reduce big amount of SP very fast.

Cons:

•) Unfair use of the feature.
•) The MapMarkers need to retaliate, which mean, be attach to what the Mods decide. In other words:

Written by clovis1122, 20.10.2014 at 09:10

And that could happen between "Nice" Mods. but the truth is:

" I dont need to give you explaination"
" I already told you it"
" *indifferent to user's message* "
" No it wont charge. Stop pming me"


•) A lot of forums made not only by own MapMarker but also other players for retaliate.

Now: If the Mods warn the MapMarker first:

Pros:
•) An agreement, which mean no future retaliation.

Cons:

•) Slow process.
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20.10.2014 - 20:59
Written by clovis1122, 20.10.2014 at 20:47

Ok, now time for the Pros and Cons.

1. Mods act, then MapMarker can retaliate:

Pros:

•) Easy and Fast action for the maps to be nerfed. This can reduce big amount of SP very fast.

Cons:

•) Unfair use of the feature.
•) The MapMarkers need to retaliate, which mean, be attach to what the Mods decide. In other words:

Written by clovis1122, 20.10.2014 at 09:10

And that could happen between "Nice" Mods. but the truth is:

" I dont need to give you explaination"
" I already told you it"
" *indifferent to user's message* "
" No it wont charge. Stop pming me"


•) A lot of forums made not only by own MapMarker but also other players for retaliate.

Now: If the Mods warn the MapMarker first:

Pros:
•) An agreement, which mean no future retaliation.

Cons:

•) Slow process.


>Map makers retaliate
a strike won't happen, because all the good map makers are anti-RP, anti-SP Farming, Anti-Union, supporters.

your post is wrong because:

A) you assume map makers are a unified group.
b) you assume good map makers will get less SP
c) you assume map makers will protest
d) you assume mods are corrupt
e) you assume all of this will happen at the same time to produce: a strike

There is no con, to full mod control.
if mods were so untrustworthy, they wouldn't have free control over:
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