On behalf of the Game Meta team I'm announcing a few updates which have just gone live:

Buildings Changes:
  • Fortifications now cost 1400 (previously was 700)
  • Recruitment Centers now cost 1000 (previously was 700)
  • Radar Arrays now cost 300 (previously was 700)
  • Anti-Aircraft Defenses now cost 1000 (previously was 700)


Strategy Changes:
  • Relentless Attack buff -- Bombers cost lowered by 10
  • Sky Menace buff -- Air Transports capacity increased by 1
  • Master of Stealth buff (or nerf? I'm not sure which you would consider this) -- Infantry defense lowered by 1, but cost also lowered by 10.


We're still working on new strategies to try, we'll keep you posted about that...

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07.10.2020 - 05:05
 Dave (Admin)
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07.10.2020 - 05:08
 Zoe
First.. (second?)
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dont you dare call me hoella
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07.10.2020 - 05:08
Buffing ra by making it rely on bombers


Delete sm already
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07.10.2020 - 05:15
Written by JUGERS2, 07.10.2020 at 05:08

Buffing ra by making it rely on bombers


Delete sm already

RA is retlentless attack, it's not called tank spam :/
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07.10.2020 - 05:26
Ok now i will reach 1800 elo with ra italy
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07.10.2020 - 05:33
Written by tengri7, 07.10.2020 at 05:26

Ok now i will reach 1800 elo with ra italy

take the 50$ gogogogog
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07.10.2020 - 06:01
Big MOS nerf.
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07.10.2020 - 06:37
Sad for Master of Stealth, why don't you reduce the cost of militia instead of infantry
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07.10.2020 - 06:48
1. For me buildings are useless in this form. Maybe I built 5 buildings throughout their lifetime
2. SM only for Ukr in 10k EU, so nobody really cares
3. Nerf for MoS, really? I don't know people who play MoS, if you want to play invisible then you choose GW.
#MosNeedsBigBuff
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07.10.2020 - 08:01
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07.10.2020 - 08:05
What about the +1 range for Iron Fist's militia?
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07.10.2020 - 08:16
<3

tysm for RA buff it was always my fav Strat but performance pales in comparison to imp/blitz/nc/gc.
Also, why make forts that expensive?
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07.10.2020 - 08:18
Written by Abraham, 07.10.2020 at 08:05

What about the +1 range for Iron Fist's militia?

will never happen, except if we make all strats broken af.
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07.10.2020 - 09:37
Holy shit a buff for SM!!!!! You lot must be after my heart or something
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07.10.2020 - 09:57
Written by VonHolstein, 07.10.2020 at 06:48

1. For me buildings are useless in this form. Maybe I built 5 buildings throughout their lifetime
2. SM only for Ukr in 10k EU, so nobody really cares
3. Nerf for MoS, really? I don't know people who play MoS, if you want to play invisible then you choose GW.
#MosNeedsBigBuff

I like your avatar it perfectly describes what i wanted to do after reading those changes
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07.10.2020 - 11:34
Hey dave, nice update! but i think you should focus on diff things, even if we speaking on the strategies, maybe nerf blitz? or you could have added featured or something like that
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>playing atwar:

Furthermore, I consider that NWE must be destroyed
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07.10.2020 - 11:48
Written by j-e-s-u-s, 07.10.2020 at 11:34

Hey dave, nice update! but i think you should focus on diff things, even if we speaking on the strategies, maybe nerf blitz? or you could have added featured or something like that


why nerf blitz lol
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07.10.2020 - 12:01
Fgts nerfed mos
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07.10.2020 - 12:24
Written by Dave, 07.10.2020 at 05:05




bruh, give RA more crit
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RP is terrible, but NWE is the worst of all
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07.10.2020 - 12:40
 Leo
Love the SM change, about time we brought that strat back. Should see more play and some new cheaper expansions with this change.

Yet I cannot wrap my head about how the same reasoning for +1 capacity is the same for giving IF millis +1 range. But nah bro, being able to wall and switch milis between Nel and Belgium is gonna suddenly make IF the best strat in the game
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07.10.2020 - 13:33
Make some more relevant updates and fixes, rather than changing the database for default unit stats, thx.

appreciate it
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07.10.2020 - 13:55
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07.10.2020 - 14:08
This seems to make MoS worse in my opinion i rather have the +1 def
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07.10.2020 - 14:10
Written by Pavle, 07.10.2020 at 06:01

Big MOS nerf.

Can you explain how?
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07.10.2020 - 14:17
Written by Abraham, 07.10.2020 at 08:05

What about the +1 range for Iron Fist's militia?

I don't think that's ever going to happen. It would make the strategy way too strong.
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07.10.2020 - 15:17
Love the sm buff, will definitely help me rush uk as spain Not sure about the mos nerf though.
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07.10.2020 - 16:59
Written by PleaseMe, 07.10.2020 at 14:10

Written by Pavle, 07.10.2020 at 06:01

Big MOS nerf.

Can you explain how?

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07.10.2020 - 17:07
 Dave (Admin)
Written by j-e-s-u-s, 07.10.2020 at 11:34

Hey dave, nice update! but i think you should focus on diff things, even if we speaking on the strategies, maybe nerf blitz? or you could have added featured or something like that


I didn't spend any time on this. It was all the work of the Game Meta team. I'm just the messenger.
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07.10.2020 - 17:43
Thats an MOS Nerf if ive ever seen one
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If sexy is smart then i must be drop dead gorgeous.
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07.10.2020 - 18:28
Written by PleaseMe, 07.10.2020 at 14:10

Written by Pavle, 07.10.2020 at 06:01

Big MOS nerf.

Can you explain how?

Nerfing MOS inf def by -1 in favor of -10 price, is it really worth?
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07.10.2020 - 19:33
When blitz buff
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yeetus deletus throw that fetus
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07.10.2020 - 21:07
Written by Pavle, 07.10.2020 at 18:28

Written by PleaseMe, 07.10.2020 at 14:10

Written by Pavle, 07.10.2020 at 06:01

Big MOS nerf.

Can you explain how?

Nerfing MOS inf def by -1 in favor of -10 price, is it really worth?

Yes because MOS is not meant to be a super defensive strategy. So 7 defense isn't necessarily needed to fit the definition of the strategy. We had originally made changes to make the strategy more useful in Eu+ 3v3 games. Currently MOS is very strong in Eurasia and world games so there was no need to buff marines. But since we saw not many people playing in 3v3 we figured we could make infantry 50 cost which would enable it to be played in west and east more effectively in Europe. Since 60 cost is normally too expensive for most countries.
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07.10.2020 - 23:39
Nice to see Dave is still interested in Atwar
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08.10.2020 - 00:53
Written by Adult hitler, 08.10.2020 at 00:52

No I don't like the update no I hate update please
Stop your also killing 5,00,000 people in Africa :gunner:
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08.10.2020 - 10:06
Written by Dave, 07.10.2020 at 17:07

Written by j-e-s-u-s, 07.10.2020 at 11:34

Hey dave, nice update! but i think you should focus on diff things, even if we speaking on the strategies, maybe nerf blitz? or you could have added featured or something like that


I didn't spend any time on this. It was all the work of the Game Meta team. I'm just the messenger.

ah, then for anyone of this game meta team, please make more relevant changes! tnx.
and for you dave, the community would love to see more features added, we cant be stuck in 2014 forever
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>playing atwar:

Furthermore, I consider that NWE must be destroyed
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08.10.2020 - 10:51
Written by j-e-s-u-s, 08.10.2020 at 10:06

Written by Dave, 07.10.2020 at 17:07

Written by j-e-s-u-s, 07.10.2020 at 11:34

Hey dave, nice update! but i think you should focus on diff things, even if we speaking on the strategies, maybe nerf blitz? or you could have added featured or something like that


I didn't spend any time on this. It was all the work of the Game Meta team. I'm just the messenger.

ah, then for anyone of this game meta team, please make more relevant changes! tnx.
and for you dave, the community would love to see more features added, we cant be stuck in 2014 forever



https://atwar-game.com/team/

Eagle would be a good one to contact as he leads the area. Didnt know if you knew, figured I'd point it out.


Go tell birdman to stop playing game and work D
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08.10.2020 - 19:27
Written by PleaseMe, 07.10.2020 at 21:07

Written by Pavle, 07.10.2020 at 18:28

Written by PleaseMe, 07.10.2020 at 14:10

Written by Pavle, 07.10.2020 at 06:01

Big MOS nerf.

Can you explain how?

Nerfing MOS inf def by -1 in favor of -10 price, is it really worth?

Yes because MOS is not meant to be a super defensive strategy. So 7 defense isn't necessarily needed to fit the definition of the strategy. We had originally made changes to make the strategy more useful in Eu+ 3v3 games. Currently MOS is very strong in Eurasia and world games so there was no need to buff marines. But since we saw not many people playing in 3v3 we figured we could make infantry 50 cost which would enable it to be played in west and east more effectively in Europe. Since 60 cost is normally too expensive for most countries.

Maybe you are right, but -1 for -10 price is still not really worth if you ask me.
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09.10.2020 - 06:40
I think you should have an interface update as well.
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09.10.2020 - 21:08
Lmao mos change, does it make it weaker or not, someone sweaty tell me. i was a fucking monster with mos but dont actually wanna think about it in depth thanks
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09.10.2020 - 21:25
Supporter team spun their hamster wheels together for this useless rework to make themselves feel important lol
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09.10.2020 - 22:07
 Dave (Admin)
Written by Sphinx, 09.10.2020 at 21:25

Supporter team spun their hamster wheels together for this useless rework to make themselves feel important lol


Supporter team has nothing to do with game development.
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11.10.2020 - 10:31
Written by Sphinx, 09.10.2020 at 21:25

Supporter team spun their hamster wheels together for this useless rework to make themselves feel important lol


We broke our wheel a few months ago
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19.10.2020 - 17:49
If i end up taking enough drugs to come back to aw, i'll make you regret your decision to buff sm. Lets have some fun D
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20.10.2020 - 09:31
 LukeTan (Mod)
Written by Steve Aoki, 19.10.2020 at 17:49

If i end up taking enough drugs to come back to aw

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22.10.2020 - 16:17
Nice MoS nerf. This is weaker than the original incarnation we sought to buff. A 25% att nerf for a 16% cost boost? Why??? Restore the default infantry attack.

If you listen real closely you can hear the sound of Learster spinning in his atwar grave.
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22.10.2020 - 17:37
Written by Laochra, 22.10.2020 at 16:17

Nice MoS nerf. This is weaker than the original incarnation we sought to buff. A 25% att nerf for a 16% cost boost? Why??? Restore the default infantry attack.


You kidding, right? That's a straight up buff.
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23.10.2020 - 15:50
Written by Estus, 22.10.2020 at 17:37

Written by Laochra, 22.10.2020 at 16:17

Nice MoS nerf. This is weaker than the original incarnation we sought to buff. A 25% att nerf for a 16% cost boost? Why??? Restore the default infantry attack.


You kidding, right? That's a straight up buff.


How so. You've weakened the strats opening expansion capabilities and brought the stats/gameplay closer to the style of great combinator. Yes your marines are invisible but they lack the offensive kick of gc tanks. Similarly the infantry lack the defensive abilities of the gc infantry. The option to expand with naked infantry is gone. You wouldn't do that now unless youd no choice as it would be a very inefficient use of reins.

The original idea of the MoS changes was to bring the strat to smaller maps - allow it to better cope in close combat situations. Why would I ever use that strat now over GC? Weaker defense, offense and expansion contesting. Stealth has limited use when you're right beside your opponent.

The strat has been restored to it's previous lonely niche.

This isn't a big deal though. At least we now have an admin/implementor team that aren't afraid to tweak things around.
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