Tips, Tricks and Common knowledge about AtWar.

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Original post

Posted by clovis1122, 31.08.2014 - 20:06

All the communities have general information. If you are looking for learn more about AtWar's community, then this topic is for you

Recent edit.

•) Color changes.
•) Now the curiosities are counted. They have a number at the start.
•) Currently I have 52 curiosities. Date: 02/10/14.

I am planning to keep this going!!!

Afterwind.
Back in the game's beginning.

1) First user of AtWar? "Tester". It was an account made by the Admins for test the game.

2) The great Merge, the charge between AtWar and Afterwind was made on 28/11/2012.

3) The First Moderator was Cardinal. However the first "Moderator Team" was:

Cardinal
specter
MarcJr *
LiodaGobert
King Cow
n00less cluebie
HeyI
Gigglin
Guest14502
sificvoid

4)Currently, Guest14502 and Pinheiro are the oldest Mods in the Moderator Team.

5) The last users in being promoted to Moderator are BertanK and deviL. They where promoted on 6/10/14.

AtWar's projects.
Some of the most know projects carried on by the players of the community.

AtWar Radio Recruitment Office

6) atWar have a radio integrated to the game. It was suggested by tesla. Also, hugosch and Kona-chan helped to manage it.

Currently Trooper21 is the president.

AtWar Times Network

7) The AtWar Times Network, better know as ATN, is a central where people submit reports, articles and opinions about the game. It emerge as a combination from LDK's Afterwind Times (AT) and Mathdino's Afterwind News Network (ANN). The homepage can be found in the next link:

Since 06.11.2013, Madara is the president.

AtWar Academy

8) If you are still a newbie and would like some advice for improve, then you can have a mentor willing to help you! The community also have an AtWar Academy in which you can have a class about certain knowledge in atWar. It is currently presided by ]Mr_Own_U.

The AtWar academy first idea comes from a player named Emir Timur, (currently Kentuckyball). He suggested the community to make "a program" that allow lowranks to be trained. After that, Soul Reaper (currently Soul) started the first "Adopt a newbie" program. After 6 months, when Soul left atWar, Madara took care of the program, launching the Second version of the " Adopt a newb".

However, after 2 months madara left the game for a while and shutted down the program. Therefore, Mr_Own_U made the actual one. This is the link to the currently AtWar Academy:

AtWar clans.
Know more about their contribution.

9) Illyria, one of the most competitive coalition, archieve their 400 Coalition Wars on 25.09.2014 , that is, 7 month and 8 days after the creation of the clan.

Game play

Advance concepts, common tips and more!

10) Max units UK can get on paris turn 1: 52

11) Max units UK can get on netherlands turn 1: 48

12) Wondering why your infantry are slow? The Perfect Defense strategy give -1 range to infantry.

13) Lack of attack power? SM infantry get -1 attack. They are more likely to lose in a battle between 2 infantry vs 1 militia.

14) Max units turkey can get on kiev turn 3(PD): 100-120.

15) Max units ukraine can get on kiev turn 3(SM): 100-105.

16) Spain can beat NC france rush on rome, however, it requires tanks. Some of the strats capable to do this are GC, LB and PD.

17) Max units italy can get on madrid turn 1(PD)(many vary in TeamGames): 35

18) Relentless Attack( RA) is the most used strategy of the game.

19) However, PD is the most used strat for 3vs3 eu+ extra cities game.

20) Some facts about cost-efficiently units:

GW militias: 4 attack / 30 cost = 1 attack per 7.5 cost. RA tanks: 9 attack / 100 cost = 0.9 attack per 11 cost.
GW marines: 7 attack / 70 cost = 1 attack per 10 cost.. SM bombers: 8 attack / 130 cost = 1 attack per 16.25 cost.
IMP infantry: 3 attack / 30 cost = 1 attack per 10 cost.. MOS marines: 8 attack / 110 cost= 1 attack per 13.75 cost.
IMP militias: 2 attack / 10 cost = 1 attack per 5 cost.. DS helicopter: 8 attack / 130 cost = 1 attack per 16.25 cost.
PD infantry: 4 attack / 50 cost = 1 attack per 12.5 cost.. HW marines: 6 attack / 70 cost = 1 attack per 15 cost.

Checking at the table, the IMP militias and GW marines are one of the most cost-efficiently units in the game, while the DS helicopters and SM bombers are at the worst cost-efficiently units.

21) While checking the battle log, you may notice there are some strange lines. They are stealth units! With some calculation, you can know their location:

This is what you see, some strange lines on Luanda and Luena. Even though you see the lines, in the last turn you didn't saw any unit in that location, and it doesn't look like Luena or Luanda got stacked with infantry, bombers, tanks... ect:

This is what your enemy see: Submarines and marines!

This trick can be used for know if the enemy have any submarine or marine. Although you can't see marines or submarines or stealth planes, if they enter on a city, the game register their lines.

With this information you can know there are stealth units going at your territory, so you can prepare a better defense.

Another example:

There is a line from Birmingham to Plymouth, then a strange line from nowhere attack Ireland!

In the middle of the sea, there is also a line that goes from nowhere to Plymouth. Check how the units in Plymouth are the same as in the last turn ( they are stealth, therefore, they don't appear in your screen).

Maneuver.
For a better use of unit's range.

22) Chaining transports: With a simple trick you can avoid mixing transports and use them in the most efficient way possible.

Secure you have enough distance for move the sea transport.
Without click, put the mouse over the units. Click on the sea trans.
Now you can move the sea transport and leave the infantry drowned on water.
Take the infantries drowned with the other sea transport, and move on.

When this trick is used effectively, the transports can travel far and perform efficiently. Chaining transports, you can go from Bilbao.... to Saint Petesburg!

Going from northern and Baltic sea I managed to get from Bilbao to Saint Petesburg chaining 4 sea transports. I also tried to go from Barcelona to Saint Petesburg, using 3 expensive Air Transports. The sea transport chair also allowed me to carry 20 troops with Naval Commander, while the Air Transport with SM can only carry 6 troops in total.

23) Is possible to drown land units on sea, and even make a wall.

24) Land units wall on sea are breakable by naval units under some circumstances, if you can aim to the center of the line of wall:

25) You can cross from UK mainland to Belfast without sea transport, following the next steps:

zoom in to the max
zoom out to the max

26) A naval unit can take/jump to Glasgow from the other side of scotland.

27) There are some places where you can cross if you put the sea or air transport in a specific place. Some of theses "bridge" are:

-From UK to France:

-From greece to izmir:

28) You can cross naval units across a small patch of land, and land units across a small patch of water. Very useful for maneuver:

Brittany shortcut:
Zoom in to the max, looking to anchor the boat as far as possible.

Click. Game will automatically adjust the boat to land.

Try to move the boat, and anchor further on land.

You will notice how you took a small patch of land.

Move on. Is useful to look to the smaller distance between water and land for sail easier.

29) From izmir to Rome:

30) Sea transport on Sweden's lakes:

More shortcut's and patch are listened at the end of the topic.

31) " Every little range count". PD infantry can reach from rome to turin, if you cross a small patch of water:

Income & Reinforcements.
Default map economy, troops and related.

32) What determines the amount of reinforcements on a country? According to Cardinal Ouellet :

2.7 Million and + : 8 reinforcements
2.3 Million and + : 7 reinforcements
2.0 Million and + : 6 reinforcements
1.6 Million and + : 5 reinforcements
1.3 Million and + : 4 reinforcements
0.9 Million and + : 3 reinforcements
0.6 Million and + : 2 reinforcements
0.5 Million and - : 1 reinforcements

(Vienna = 2.3 million= 6 reinforcements.... but salt lake city 2.3 million =7reinforcements).

The original threat can be found here

[size=4]Whole World:

33)The amount of income available in the default map is 34,825:

34) Available reinforcements in the default map: 1943.

35) Tokyo, japan, is the richest city of the map, with 552 income. Followed by Moscow, russia (438 income) and Shangai, China: Southeast (436 income).

36) India hold the biggest reinforcements rate of the map: 107 reinforcements:

Followed up by Indonesia (44 reinforcements) and Turkey (39 reinforcements).

Europe:

Whole Europe+ economy:

37) Germany hold the biggest economy of europe+ extra cities, with a income of 651 + 130 whole country, followed by uk (600 income + 120 whole country) and france ( 593 income + 119 whole country).

38) Moscow is the richest city of Europe+, with 438 income. Followed up by Paris(405 income) and london(399 income).

39) Turkey have the highest Reinforcements from the map, with 39. Followed by UK( 28 reinforcements), spain(24 reinforcements), germany (23 reinforcements), France (22 reinforcements), Italy (21 reinforcements) and ukraine (19 reinforcements).

40) Balkans income and his influence zones (exept poland, moldova and greece)

41) Turkey's influence zone ( 69% of the money comes from turkey, romania and greece).

42) Scandinavia income:

Africa income and reinforcements rate.

Whole Africa economy:

43) South Africa hold the biggest economy from the continent, earning 231 total income + 46 from Whole country bonus ( 277 in total). Followed by Nigeria (177 + 35 income) and Egypt (153 + 31 income).

44) Lagos is the richest city of Africa, with 102 income. Followed up by Cairo (85 income) and Algiers (83 income).

45) The richest countries of Africa also hold the highest reinforcements rate of the continent. South Africa lead up with 33 reinforcements, followed up by Nigeria (21 reinforcements) and Egypt (20 reinforcements). Other countries that offer a high rate of reinforcements are Morocco (13 reinforcements) , Cameroon (12 reinforcements) and Kenya (10 reinforcements).

United States income and reinforcements rate.

Whole USA income:

46) USA: Atlantic is the richest part of the zone, with 668 income + 134 whole country bonus (802 in total). Followed up by USA: Pacific (641 income + 128 whole country bonus, 769 income in total) and USA: Great Lakes (579 income + 116 whole country bonus, 695 income in total).

47) Los Angeles is the richest city, with 366 income. Followed closely by New York (365 income), and on a 3rd place is Dallas (240 income).

48) Reinforcements:

USA: Pacific hold the highest reinforcements ratio of the zone, with 38. Followed up by USA: Atlantic (31 reinforcements) and USA: Great Lakes (26 reinforcements).

More Shortcut's

Here I will be posting some interesting shortcut's from Europe+ map:

49) Italy shortcut:

50)Brittany shortcut:

51) Denmark shortcut:

52) Is possible to cross from Athens to Rome without pass by Patras:

Help me add more curiousity! Fell free to post anything that can be interesting!

AlBoZzZ Aristokrats Posts: 3618 From: Albania	+1 08.10.2014 - 15:14 AlBoZzZ Written by Guest14502, 01.10.2014 at 12:11 Please, everyone stop being ridiculous. Nobody "owns" the information about AW, except maybe Ivan and Amok, who are the game creators. Sorry if you are upset that any game strategic secrets are out but once again, they do not belong to you. OP. hopefully this will make illyria players and trolls like syrian death monkey who use bugs in cw, to stop crying on this thread ---- Loading... Loading...
Acquiesce (Mod) Illyria Posts: 3792	12.12.2014 - 16:04 Acquiesce (Mod) I'm late to this but really awesome job Clovis. It's great you put this and those other guides together I'm sure people find them helpful. ---- The church is near, but the road is icy... the bar is far away, but I will walk carefully... Loading... Loading...
Google Shadow Aces Posts: 2705 From: USA	20.12.2014 - 13:05 Google I have wondered what r14, and r15 looked like for a while now... Here is what i found them as.... r8- r9- r10- r11- r12- r13- r14- r15- ---- Helpful Guides Loading... Loading...
clovis1122 Epic Clan Posts: 9040 From: Dominican Republic	20.12.2014 - 16:13 clovis1122 Written by Google, 20.12.2014 at 13:05 I have wondered what r14, and r15 looked like for a while now... Here is what i found them as.... r8- r9- r10- r11- r12- r13- r14- r15- Yep, hdrakon also have a post about it http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=7182 I haven't updated this on a while because it got bad received by the community. Loading... Loading...
Permamuted Illyria Posts: 6176 From: Ireland	20.12.2014 - 16:16 Permamuted Clovis change the name of this thread, its terrible, anybody seeking information such as this using the search feature wont use keywords such as curiosities. Something along the lines of "tips and tricks" would be more appropriate. ---- Loading... Loading...
Google Shadow Aces Posts: 2705 From: USA	20.12.2014 - 17:22 Google Written by clovis1122, 20.12.2014 at 16:13 Written by Google, 20.12.2014 at 13:05 I have wondered what r14, and r15 looked like for a while now... Here is what i found them as.... r8- r9- r10- r11- r12- r13- r14- r15- Yep, hdrakon also have a post about it http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=7182 I haven't updated this on a while because it got bad received by the community. I enjoyed looking at it.... I already knew most the stuff, but it was very enjoyable. ---- Helpful Guides Loading... Loading...
Permamuted Illyria Posts: 6176 From: Ireland	+1 24.12.2014 - 18:44 Permamuted Written by clovis1122, 23.12.2014 at 07:33 Written by Permamuted, 20.12.2014 at 16:16 Clovis change the name of this thread, its terrible, anybody seeking information such as this using the search feature wont use keywords such as curiosities. Something along the lines of "tips and tricks" would be more appropriate. But the point was to make something curious.... ;_; I mean, the Community information is curious, isn it? (Imagine I am making an upper stress on the "isn it". It means I am expecting you to agree with me ) I'm not disagreeing with you just for the sake of it, im not even disagreeing with you I'm merely offering advice. This thread is a must see for players,it needs a title that demscribes the information it contains especially since the lazyarsemods havent stickied it. If I was searching the awforums forgame tips skills and tricks, I would not think to click on this thread because of its title. Which is a shame because its a goldmine. Also I think describing this thread as a curiosity doesn't do it justice. Bla typing a long response is painful on this nexus, I'm just gonna say that I think you don't fully understand what curiosity means. ---- Loading... Loading...
Funtime Posts: 800 From: Pakistan	25.12.2014 - 05:01 Funtime Didn't get a chance to appreciate your work clovis, was well busy you could say! good job clovis! ---- Believe you can and you're halfway there Loading... Loading...
SyrianDevil Illyria Posts: 2332	25.12.2014 - 08:21 SyrianDevil Written by AlBoZzZ, 08.10.2014 at 15:14 Written by Guest14502, 01.10.2014 at 12:11 Please, everyone stop being ridiculous. Nobody "owns" the information about AW, except maybe Ivan and Amok, who are the game creators. Sorry if you are upset that any game strategic secrets are out but once again, they do not belong to you. OP. hopefully this will make illyria players and trolls like syrian death monkey who use bugs in cw, to stop crying on this thread who touch your tile and why you talking about me while you know i dont open forum with out getting invited you are so retard ---- Our next Moments are Tomorrows Memories Loading... Loading...
SyrianDevil Illyria Posts: 2332	25.12.2014 - 08:25 SyrianDevil Written by Permamuted, 27.09.2014 at 08:49 Written by Quantum027, 27.09.2014 at 01:23 I still disagree with the LB Spain statement, PD Spain rush on Rome has never lost against NC France, and I dont think it will ever (unless major random crits), I send 18 tanks, 20 inf, general, bomber to rome as PD turn 1. I havent seen a France NC be able to beat it actually the most powerful spain rush is gc, i have tested many many times with various illyrians. sm is probably the weakest, with all attempts failing. lb would be the next weakest only succeeding once by a close margin against nc after several attempts. the strat requires you to be exactly as it describes, a lucky bastard. the high costs make you weak lategame. so its a poor choice pd would be next, succeeding roughly 50% of the time, youre more likely to succeed if you send everything and dont use any wfs on the sea. probably > 50% GC is the most powerful, ive only seen it fail once. however the high costs make it a more difficult strat to handle after turn 1. overall though, any full rush on rome is risky if youre up against full NC france, there isnt a single strat that guarantees victory. actually the most powerful spain rush is gc< nice hw ---- Our next Moments are Tomorrows Memories Loading... Loading...
SyrianDevil Illyria Posts: 2332	+1 25.12.2014 - 08:35 SyrianDevil Written by Guest14502, 01.10.2014 at 12:11 Please, everyone stop being ridiculous. Nobody "owns" the information about AW, except maybe Ivan and Amok, who are the game creators. Sorry if you are upset that any game strategic secrets are out but once again, they do not belong to you. It is perfectly fine to publicly post information ABOUT THE GAME even taken from a "private" clan forum (which it is not in this case). And in any event: this thread is not the place to debate that. I will delete future off-topic posts here so please don't derail the thread, and if you ignore this clear warning you risk losing your forum posting rights. To Epic and to any others who contributed, again this is a cool post no its not his sharing informetion only advanced players know(also he didnt discover them himself...) and not all of them know this uk to paris only 5% of players knew it.... let the guys discover themselfs how to do this things like we did let them discover themselfs how to do it like we did not just take a ready skills and come cry after some days you will find him posting the blitz turky rush which i have did it first time so most aw will learn how to do it and use against the maker his doing this to pay attention for himself hoping to become mod please stop this......... ---- Our next Moments are Tomorrows Memories Loading... Loading...
Ars Moriendi Syndicate Posts: 122 From: USA	14.01.2015 - 21:45 Ars Moriendi Written by SyrianDevil, 25.12.2014 at 08:35 Written by Guest14502, 01.10.2014 at 12:11 Please, everyone stop being ridiculous. Nobody "owns" the information about AW, except maybe Ivan and Amok, who are the game creators. Sorry if you are upset that any game strategic secrets are out but once again, they do not belong to you. It is perfectly fine to publicly post information ABOUT THE GAME even taken from a "private" clan forum (which it is not in this case). And in any event: this thread is not the place to debate that. I will delete future off-topic posts here so please don't derail the thread, and if you ignore this clear warning you risk losing your forum posting rights. To Epic and to any others who contributed, again this is a cool post no its not his sharing informetion only advanced players know(also he didnt discover them himself...) and not all of them know this uk to paris only 5% of players knew it.... let the guys discover themselfs how to do this things like we did let them discover themselfs how to do it like we did not just take a ready skills and come cry after some days you will find him posting the blitz turky rush which i have did it first time so most aw will learn how to do it and use against the maker his doing this to pay attention for himself hoping to become mod please stop this......... RESPECT if you want to learn then join a clan..learn hands on. by doing this everyone is carpooling information taking away the credibility of some old clan and players. i believe some things should be kept private making training with certain players that more prestigious ---- There is three ways to do things, good, bad, and the way i do it Loading... Loading...
Ars Moriendi Syndicate Posts: 122 From: USA	14.01.2015 - 22:00 Ars Moriendi Written by brianwl, 12.09.2014 at 08:20 Written by Your Monkey, 12.09.2014 at 05:25 Written by Waffel, 10.09.2014 at 07:27 You know i dont support this thread. What took some years for people to develop and notice and create, u just told every (noob/pro/etc.) player in this game. Now every new player can tryhard to play like the good old ones... U just teach secrets of many clans/people to all of aw.... such a shame Sharing info accelerates everyone's development. If we all had to learn everything without building on what others spent years creating, we'd likely all be huddling in a cave trying to spark a fire. ==== The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant. Maximilien Robespierre ... false ---- There is three ways to do things, good, bad, and the way i do it Loading... Loading...
clovis1122 Epic Clan Posts: 9040 From: Dominican Republic	27.02.2015 - 14:52 clovis1122 bug city!!! Loading... Loading...
RaulPB Epic Clan Posts: 6360 From: Spain	+1 27.02.2015 - 14:57 RaulPB Written by Ars Moriendi, 14.01.2015 at 22:00 false I love your argument! It's foolproof ---- Don't ever look down on someone unless you're helping him up. Don't ever treat someone else the way you wouldn't want others to treat you. We're all people. Loading... Loading...
CrypticCDN Posts: 238 From: Canada	28.02.2015 - 23:29 CrypticCDN Clovis great post I will now start promoting it :D and holy shit Madara going for Mod but I feel MOU stopping him #LDKisLOVELDKisLIFE ---- R.I.P. Mortal Kombat 2/15/2015 ~Cryptic(CDN) Loading... Loading...
Croat Paradox Posts: 7225 From: Croatia	+1 28.02.2015 - 23:31 Croat Written by clovis1122, 27.02.2015 at 14:52 bug city!!! Kazahstan got same problem. ---- Loading... Loading...
Google Shadow Aces Posts: 2705 From: USA	06.03.2015 - 20:41 Google Clovis, add this to ur thing.... Only person with -0 elo http://atwar-game.com/users/profile.php?user_id=820478 ---- Helpful Guides Loading... Loading...
clovis1122 Epic Clan Posts: 9040 From: Dominican Republic	18.03.2015 - 07:22 clovis1122 Written by Google, 06.03.2015 at 20:41 Clovis, add this to ur thing.... Only person with -0 elo http://atwar-game.com/users/profile.php?user_id=820478 When I get a PC Loading... Loading...
Google Shadow Aces Posts: 2705 From: USA	18.03.2015 - 10:25 Google Written by clovis1122, 18.03.2015 at 07:22 Written by Google, 06.03.2015 at 20:41 Clovis, add this to ur thing.... Only person with -0 elo http://atwar-game.com/users/profile.php?user_id=820478 When I get a PC Lol ---- Helpful Guides Loading... Loading...
Permamuted Illyria Posts: 6176 From: Ireland	16.05.2015 - 09:23 Permamuted Moved to game strategy and tips, i didnt sticky because cthulhu already has all your guides linked in his AW knowlege collection thread. ---- Loading... Loading...
Waffel Syndicate Posts: 6422 From: Djibouti	+2 16.05.2015 - 12:27 Waffel Written by Permamuted, 16.05.2015 at 09:23 Moved to game strategy and tips, i didnt sticky because cthulhu already has all your guides linked in his AW knowlege collection thread. Not so nice of you. ---- Written by Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44 Waffel for mod 2015 Loading... Loading...
clovis1122 Epic Clan Posts: 9040 From: Dominican Republic	+2 17.09.2015 - 22:05 clovis1122 Fu, move this back to general. Loading... Loading...
clovis1122 Epic Clan Posts: 9040 From: Dominican Republic	+1 17.09.2015 - 22:09 clovis1122 Did you know that... - In atWar, there's no draw. A recently update in the FAQ had made it clear that the defender is going to win the battle, in case there would'be no units surviving. - It was recently discovered that the bonus in cities was not working? For two years.... - Triangle wall is now possible to be done. The method listing the steps to do it can be found by clicking HERE - You can find the server's time by looking at settings > Time offset. The server time should appear below. Loading... Loading...
Cold Case ENIGMA Posts: 5324 From: Greece	+1 18.09.2015 - 04:39 Cold Case Clovis pls update.A lot of changes have been made.For example ra spain rush to rome is the best now since 9attack=90 cost.Btw great job.It was good to read. I muself learnt about the mods only the other stuff were already familiar Anyway GREAT JOB!!! ---- Loading... Loading...
PleaseMe Blue-Dragons Posts: 2547 From: Germany	+4 18.09.2015 - 13:56 PleaseMe I think you might have a mistake. On number 36. you said that USA pacific had third highest reinforcements. But on number 39. you say Turkey has 39 reinforcements which is 1 more than USA Pacific. I am very observant ---- Loading... Loading...
clovis1122 Epic Clan Posts: 9040 From: Dominican Republic	+2 18.09.2015 - 14:07 clovis1122 Written by PleaseMe, 18.09.2015 at 13:56 I think you might have a mistake. On number 36. you said that USA pacific had third highest reinforcements. But on number 39. you say Turkey has 39 reinforcements which is 1 more than USA Pacific. I am very observant Good catch! Should'be fixed now. Loading... Loading...
clovis1122 Epic Clan Posts: 9040 From: Dominican Republic	31.10.2015 - 21:40 clovis1122 Did you know that... Some curiousities about gamechat commands. There are a lot of commands that are hidden from the players. 1. You can type any number between 0 and somewhere less than 2,200,000,000 as a command. Although the majority of them does nothing(???) , some of them does the function of others common commands. Example: /0 works as /pr /1 works as /report /7 works as /language etc.... 2. Additionally you can add - or + before the number, which doubles the range of values. But most (if not all) of the negative numbers does no action (even though typing /-0 works as /0 or /+0, but 0 is by default non-negative). Adding + works exactly as a number without any indicator. Loading... Loading...
clovis1122 Epic Clan Posts: 9040 From: Dominican Republic	29.01.2016 - 14:03 clovis1122 WOW WTF, who edited my comment. I am pretty sure I had wrote something more there. At least have the decency to leave a note, srrsrrl. Loading... Loading...
clovis1122 Epic Clan Posts: 9040 From: Dominican Republic	+6 29.01.2016 - 14:05 clovis1122 Did you know that... Pristina is the only non-capital country with a flag! Do admins support Kosovo? Loading... Loading...

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